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#16579 17-Oct-2007 17:22
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I spent four years working for Vodafone in sales and account management and it saddens me no end to see what state their services are at. I started with them not long after BellSouth exited the country and at the time there were less than 150,000 subscribers on the network. We were clearly the upstart of the industry taking on the established heavyweight.

Some of the services that were unique to us at the time were clear differentiators (txt being the main example) but the real point of difference was the brand. Vodafone back then was cool. It was innovative, smart and looked after its customers. I was working in retail when a "drop and swap" promo was first run. Customers could bring in any working telecom mobile and swap to a VF prepay at no cost which included $100 of credit.

Pretty cool promo of its own accord but the real smart thing was the timing - Boxing Day thru to New Years. We were swapping phones that had literally come straight out from under the Christmas tree, still boxed and shrink wrapped.

Demand was insane, you could hardly call it selling, it was more just straight distribution. The local telecom guys looked liked someone had stolen their dates on prom night. That sort of innovation helped define us as a company and customers loved us for it.

I suppose its almost inevitable that a company changes as it grows. But to read they had to suspend some of their core billing services so they could upgrade their systems to cope had me shaking my head in disbelief. How did they get to that stage in the first place? How did a company that used to be so smart, so innovative, so in-tune with its customers, suddenly forget about them?

Most of the commentary on here is less than complimentary of the company and at first, I was tempted to jump in here and try to defend my old stomping ground. But in the end, I've realised there's not really much left to defend is there? The sad truth is that this once clever, funky organisation has gone the way of most succesful but lumbering corporates and forgotten the core values that got it there in the first place.

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  #91388 17-Oct-2007 17:35
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Interesting perspective!









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#91389 17-Oct-2007 17:35
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What a post! Really what I think about their relationship with customers...

I can see you will get some replies coming to defend the corporation, some probably from people that don't work there to know what have changed in all those years (or perhaps not, just to prove me wrong).

Well done though.




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#91395 17-Oct-2007 17:57
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Very good post, I have been with Vodafone off and on over the years and i will admit i wont go back to Telecom no matter what but it is interesting to see how the company has changed .... I remember the way the promoted the "No Contracts" or what ever it was but the smashing up of the Limo was a really cool add... 


I need roaming and use it alot in my work but i have to admit i would love to see over all vodafone start having fun again in the way they do stuff, .... maybe thats a simple way to say it but they seem to just be becoming another mobile company which is a shame.





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  #91399 17-Oct-2007 18:20
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Superb, my thoughts exactly. I had thought the word "rotted" but this is perfect!

Yes we all remember the core values, cool ads and the vibe that once surrounded Vodafone. All pretty much dead and buried face ground in the dirt in the face of profits and trickery.

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  #91415 17-Oct-2007 20:16
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Great post.


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  #91416 17-Oct-2007 20:42
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What I've heard is this once clever and funky organisation built their systems with rubber bands, a can-do attitude and little regard to how it was all going to cope in the future. Hence the current mess. A little less funk and a little more of the boring stuff like planning would have gone a long way.




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#91418 17-Oct-2007 20:44
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I think "fun" and "planning" do not exclude each other. You can't be serious all the time, except in things that demand that.





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  #91423 17-Oct-2007 21:45
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Vindaloo conflates two topics in a way that implies one is responsible for the other: the corporatisation of Vodafone and the parlous state of its systems. My understanding is that in fact the opposite is true - the current problems stem from the non-corporate approach of the early organisation.




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#91432 17-Oct-2007 23:19
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Why does seemingly everybody in NZ think Vodafone is/was this small, funky company?  It's a huge multi-national, with some very clever marketing.

As for its systems becoming clunky: anybody heard of concepts like "compliance" or "regulatory environment" or "government interference"?  The knife cuts both ways.  Any attempt to open the telecommunications market to competition (for example by limiting Telecom in some way), also motivates Telecom to attempt to compete in other areas.  Who would have believed it could take on Vodafone in monthly mobile uptake and beat it?  Consistently?

I think Vodafone's parent company isn't going to let its subsidiary languish too long.





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  #91436 17-Oct-2007 23:31
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JamesHip: Why does seemingly everybody in NZ think Vodafone is/was this small, funky company?  It's a huge multi-national, with some very clever marketing.



I think it's more it began as the small competitor in New Zealand that most of us are referring to. Sadly I can't ever remember vodafone's good days... I just see them as business friendly mainly now. The "cool" days are only a fuzzy memory.







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  #92126 23-Oct-2007 20:33
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Back to Vindaloo working at Vodafone in the 'good old days'...  I suppose you had fun, even though being very busy?  What about today's staff, how are they going, I wonder.  How's their morale?  I reckon you could take the maxim of some american companies, that happy staff means happy customers?  (A minute's silence for those who have to put up with us as customers please...)

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  #92168 24-Oct-2007 00:39
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I have been with 021 since early BellSouth days and I can't complain. 

Over the years Telecom has screwed me a few different ways on mobile phones and mobile data and could not really care when I had issues. 

When I had some pretty basic but un-answered questions about Vodafone cross-Tasman services it was pretty quickly escalated to the head of marketing in NZ and then down to a product specialist that directed me to a specific outlet in Sydney that could (and did) solve my problems.

As for a system shutdown for a while ... I didn't see anything wrong with it.  System upgrades need to happen and a pre-warned outage is better than a "slipstreamed" upgrade that goes wrong ...

Badly written letter but I didn't notice any issues with the outage. 

(All letters containing bad news should start with DON'T PANIC and this was perfect example.  It mentioned outages at the start and I got concerned but by the time I got to the end it was kinda "who cares".  Bad letter ...)

I'll stick by Vodafone over Telecom or Telsta.


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#92177 24-Oct-2007 08:08
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I think the discussin is more from the employee perspective than customer's side...




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  #92205 24-Oct-2007 12:52
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Having left NZ just before the emergence of BellSouth and their eventual purchase by Vodafone, I missed all the snappy promotions and hype.

Just prior to my departure, I was involved in the first cellular roll-out with Telecom, and we were having fun with that - hanging around the airport calling each other on big Mitsi bricks whenever anyone was watching.

I saw something similar, however, when Orange started up in the UK. Lots of hype, great special deals and a newly recruited workforce trying to get to grips with the industry. I was working for a company supplying transmission between MSCs for Orange and Vodafone, and man did the Orange guys ask some weird questions - not like the Vodafone chickens who seemed to have been doing it for ever.

Now, back in NZ, I am involved with the technical side of Vodafone, and what do you know, most of the engineers are my old ex Telecom collegues!! Are they having fun though? I would say they're having as much fun as possible working for such a big corporation, under the sort of workload and pressure this industry requires. I can only really talk about the South Island guys though, I'm sure it's much worse in Auckland (isn't everything??!?).




 

 

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#92260 24-Oct-2007 17:31
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I've been a Vodafone customer for just over six years now & I must admit that Vodafone have lost some of their "cool & funky" image, but not all.

I remember their awesome promotion "Jet Boy, Jet Girl, gonna take you 'round the world........" man I loved that promo' & I spent some serious coin on txting as much as I could to gain as many entries as I could, in the hope that I would win. I didn't win, but that promotion to me was typical of the "cool & funky" image that they had at the time, hell I even remember singing the upbeat song that went with it quite a bit!

However, of late, other than the "Live like a Rock Star" promotion which was some time ago, there have been hardly any "cool & funky" promotions & the feeling of being "a special customer, who is regularly rewarded with great competitions & promotions" is sadly well & truely gone.

Whilst I am happy with the service I currently receive & have received over the years, don't get me wrong, I feel I am no longer valued like I use to be & rewarded with what use to be monthly competitions/deals.

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