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Kenshiro

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#20462 27-Mar-2008 12:54
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Hey guys,

Just picked up a Linksys WRP400 VoIP router from Ingram Micro. I have Xnet Fusion setup at home so I'm really keen to finally have VFX running as my phone lines.

What are the steps to configure my current D-Link DSL-504G to work with the Linksys router? I have heard of terms such as half-bridge mode used a lot. Would it be best to run that option? How would full-bridge mode, or other modes compare to it?

Alternatively I also have lying around, a D-Link DSL-302G (Gen-II) and a (discontinued) Dynalink RTA020. If either of these would perform better in complementing the Linksys WRP400 VoIP router please educate me too :-)

Thanks in advance to any inputs, have a nice day guys!

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  #119035 27-Mar-2008 13:15
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Hi Kenshiro,

By default the wrp400 should be setup for DHCP, so if you plug the blue port into your dynalink you should be able to plug in behind the wrp400 and the internet should just work.  From there the provisioning steps are as per normal, just enter our provisioning link into the Voice--> Advanced --> Provisiniong --> Profile rule..

you may run into issues with natting going through the dynalink, if this is the case its probably easiest to ring through to the helpdesk to get the port forwarding settings/details.

Cheers

Josh






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  #119057 27-Mar-2008 15:03
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Thanks Josh,

So you suggest I go with the D-Link DSL-502G as my modem?

What are the benefits for me in running in half-bridge mode? Is it in terms of reducing the duplicated functionalities also offered from the WRP400 router?

With either setups, how would it affect my port forwarding? Would I be configuring it on the D-Link modem, or the Linksys router?

Cheers.


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  #119106 27-Mar-2008 17:32
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Kenshiro: Hey guys,

Just picked up a Linksys WRP400 VoIP router from Ingram Micro. I have Xnet Fusion setup at home so I'm really keen to finally have VFX running as my phone lines.

What are the steps to configure my current D-Link DSL-504G to work with the Linksys router? I have heard of terms such as half-bridge mode used a lot. Would it be best to run that option? How would full-bridge mode, or other modes compare to it?

Alternatively I also have lying around, a D-Link DSL-302G (Gen-II) and a (discontinued) Dynalink RTA020. If either of these would perform better in complementing the Linksys WRP400 VoIP router please educate me too :-)

Thanks in advance to any inputs, have a nice day guys!

Kenshiro

Kenshiro, can you double check your D-Link model numbers, as I don't think there is a Gen-II version of the 302, but there is a Gen-II version of the 504. If it is a Gen-II 504, then this can be put in to half-bridge mode (or ZipB as D-Link call it). This would be the best way to set this up.




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  #119159 27-Mar-2008 20:42
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coffeebaron:
Kenshiro, can you double check your D-Link model numbers, as I don't think there is a Gen-II version of the 302, but there is a Gen-II version of the 504. If it is a Gen-II 504, then this can be put in to half-bridge mode (or ZipB as D-Link call it). This would be the best way to set this up.


Yup it does have a Gen-II printed below the DSL-302G model number, on the same side as the LEDs. At the base of it there's a sticker which says DSL-302G/TX V.C1.

On the contrary, I'm afraid my DSL-504G is not a Gen-II. I see no mention of it on the unit itself. There is a V.D1 label at the back though.

From what I've got, would you recommend going with the DSL-302G or the DSL-504G as my modem unit? Or even the legacy Dynalink RTA020? I've also had some crazy idea of going out to buy a new modem unit, such as the RTA1320. Don't know if it is really necessary though? Frankly I know so little on this subject, but I do know most of you would be more informed than me :P

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  #119171 27-Mar-2008 21:05
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I've also just stumbled across a webpage: http://www.wlug.org.nz/DSL-302G

In the page there is a mention of half-bridge mode being possible. This does complicate my options :-S

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  #119185 27-Mar-2008 21:22
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I believe the 302 will do 8Mbps maximum, nothing more.  Same for the 502 even if it connects on ADSL2+.  On the other hand, the RTA1320 will do about 18Mbps (if your line allows you).  There is a document form Telecom Wholesale where they performance tested all common NZ modems and the RTA was one of the best.  But note that Dynalink has some quality inspection issues (or rather they let the customer do the quality inspection ;-).

I've bought a new one off TradeMe with a receipt but not from a company.  It did not work, but there was no problem exchanging it with the Dynalink customer services in Albany, Auckland.  So if you buy one, make sure it is virtually new and also make sure you get an invoice with it even if it is not in your name.




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  #119200 27-Mar-2008 22:04
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I concur, if you can get the 302 in half bridge mode, do it! But if you're happy to buy a new router, the RTA1320 (from a good batch) is a good solid ADSL2+ router. Also worth considering is the Linksys AM300 (with latest firmware).




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  #119202 27-Mar-2008 22:06
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Niel: I believe the 302 will do 8Mbps maximum, nothing more. Same for the 502 even if it connects on ADSL2+. On the other hand, the RTA1320 will do about 18Mbps (if your line allows you). There is a document form Telecom Wholesale where they performance tested all common NZ modems and the RTA was one of the best. But note that Dynalink has some quality inspection issues (or rather they let the customer do the quality inspection ;-).


Looks like I'm going to shop for a new modem then. I have heard good things for the Dynalink RTA1320, as well as DSE modem routers doing half-bridging.... Which would be a better choice?

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  #119203 27-Mar-2008 22:18
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I think you'll get more votes & support for the Dynalink, so go with that. BTW, if you can't find "half-bridge" look for "IP Extensions"
Post back if you need some help.




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  #119206 27-Mar-2008 22:31
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coffeebaron: I think you'll get more votes & support for the Dynalink, so go with that. BTW, if you can't find "half-bridge" look for "IP Extensions"
Post back if you need some help.


Thanks for the suggestions coffeebaron! I couldn't see your last post before I sent mine. I'm now also looking at the Linksys AM300 model that you mentioned, price-wise they are all at similar level. Which one of those have a better reputation?

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  #119269 28-Mar-2008 08:42
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Kenshiro:
coffeebaron: I think you'll get more votes & support for the Dynalink, so go with that. BTW, if you can't find "half-bridge" look for "IP Extensions"
Post back if you need some help.


Thanks for the suggestions coffeebaron! I couldn't see your last post before I sent mine. I'm now also looking at the Linksys AM300 model that you mentioned, price-wise they are all at similar level. Which one of those have a better reputation?

AM300 if you are on a good line (less than 4KM from exchange) - faster sync speed than the RTA1320
RTA1320 if your line is more marginal and want better stability - a little lower sync speed than the AM300




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  #119272 28-Mar-2008 08:53
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Kenshiro:
Niel: I believe the 302 will do 8Mbps maximum, nothing more. Same for the 502 even if it connects on ADSL2+. On the other hand, the RTA1320 will do about 18Mbps (if your line allows you). There is a document form Telecom Wholesale where they performance tested all common NZ modems and the RTA was one of the best. But note that Dynalink has some quality inspection issues (or rather they let the customer do the quality inspection ;-).


Looks like I'm going to shop for a new modem then. I have heard good things for the Dynalink RTA1320, as well as DSE modem routers doing half-bridging.... Which would be a better choice?



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  #119537 29-Mar-2008 14:49
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Thanks to you all guys!

With warning on DSE routers and consistency issues with Dynalink RTA1320, I'm inclined towards the Linksys AM300. I've placed an order on Expert Tech and they said there should be stock coming on Monday.

What would be the best mode to operate the AM300 and WRP400? I'm assuming that there'll be a half-bridge option that I should configure on AM300?

Since I will only have 2 wired and 1 wireless connection running, is it beneficial to switch off DHCP, to manually define the internal static IPs?

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  #119703 30-Mar-2008 16:16
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Kenshiro: Thanks to you all guys!

With warning on DSE routers and consistency issues with Dynalink RTA1320, I'm inclined towards the Linksys AM300. I've placed an order on Expert Tech and they said there should be stock coming on Monday.

What would be the best mode to operate the AM300 and WRP400? I'm assuming that there'll be a half-bridge option that I should configure on AM300?

Since I will only have 2 wired and 1 wireless connection running, is it beneficial to switch off DHCP, to manually define the internal static IPs?

1. Make sure your AM300 has latest firmware IMPORTANT for half-bridge mode. Info & link here:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=65&TopicId=19874
2. Connect AM300 direct into a single PC to do the initial setup
3. Setup AM300 to connect to Internet (do not enable half-bridge mode yet)
4. Confirm Internet works all ok on single pc setup.
5. Back into AM300 web interface & find half-bridge mode & enable this. Save & allow device to reboot. Wait for dsl connection to fully connect - green "Internet" light on AM300 should light up. You may or may not have connectivity on your PC - that's ok.
6. Power off AM300. Plug in AM300 --> WAN port on WRP400 & single PC into one of the WRP400 LAN ports.
7. Power on AM300 DO NOT power on WRP400
8. Wait for DSL & authentication - green "Internet" light back on.
9. Now power up WRP400, wait 1 min, confirm single PC can connect to Internet (you may need to reboot PC 1st)

Your all done. Now you can setup your wireless & VFX etc in the WRP400.




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  #120294 1-Apr-2008 19:06
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Also to add to Coffee baron's recommendations, after you follow his steps, change the WRP400's IP address to 192.168.2.1.  This way you will still be able to access the AM300 config page on 192.168.1.1 even when it's in Half-Bridge mode.

When you change the IP address on your WRP400 you will need to close your browser window once the change is successful, then access it again by typing 192.168.2.1 (or else your web browser will look for it at the old IP address)

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