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#279690 1-Nov-2020 23:02

I have recently had my landline switched to VOiP, and it is working perfectly fine.

Will my old hard-wire pole-to-house be disconnected, or just turned off at the 'exchange end'? Although VOiP went live 36 hours ago, the old line is still live.

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#2596059 2-Nov-2020 06:20

How is VoIP getting delivered over copper, Fibre or 4G?

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#2596091 2-Nov-2020 08:52

@Linux ... HFC.

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#2596113 2-Nov-2020 09:05

Rickles:

@Linux ... HFC.

You need get the wiring intergraded - if you are Wellington based I can help you do this - Bear in mind you will not be able to run as many phones off your RGW as you could off your traditional POTS line - you will have ringing issues

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#2596122 2-Nov-2020 09:20

@nztim ... yes, I'd like to retain the couple of extensions I have.

I also appreciate that the 'old' line has both power and ringer attributes which should not be used in conjunction with VoIp/router.

Would simply 'cutting' the outside wire (easily got to in my attic 😁) then use an RJ11 double adapter out of the router (one wire to phone and other to wall socket) give me an internal phone set up?

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#2596124 2-Nov-2020 09:26

This.

Rickles: ..just turned off at the 'exchange end'.

You (or the next occupant of your house) could change your mind in the future and there is no point constantly installing and removing copper.

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#2596126 2-Nov-2020 09:27

Rickles:

@nztim ... yes, I'd like to retain the couple of extensions I have.

I also appreciate that the 'old' line has both power and ringer attributes which should not be used in conjunction with VoIp/router.

Would simply 'cutting' the outside wire (easily got to in my attic 😁) then use an RJ11 double adapter out of the router (one wire to phone and other to wall socket) give me an internal phone set up?

Look on the back of your handsets, locate the Telepermit Sticker and add up the REN values of each handset you want to keep.

A phone line from a DMS100/NEAX supports a total REN value of 5, the Vodafone Ultraub would be 1 maybe 2 at the most - its safe to say if your total REN value doesn't exceed 2 you will be OK

Finally cut the street copper cable at the ETP and plug your ultra hub into your internal wiring - Job done

MAKE SURE YOU CUT THE COPPER STREET CABLE FIRST

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#2596129 2-Nov-2020 09:32

@tripper1000 ... I really wonder if copper per se will be used again, but yes something in the future may utilise those lines.

I'd not so much remove the copper as simply disconnect it from the internal termination box, so could always be utilised again if need arose.

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#2596132 2-Nov-2020 09:38

@nztim ... is that the RN= x numbers? If so, two phones are 0.5 each. The other item I have on an extension is just a ringer so that we can hear when in kitchen or outside 🙃

Thanks for your advice.

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#2596135 2-Nov-2020 09:43

Rickles:
@nztim ... is that the RN= x numbers? If so, two phones are 0.5 each. The other item I have on an extension is just a ringer so that we can hear when in kitchen or outside 🙃

Thanks for your advice.

Don’t forget to include the RN of that ringer too

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#2596139 2-Nov-2020 09:51

@nztim ... nothing on the ringer unit, so I guess simply suck-it-and-see?

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#2596141 2-Nov-2020 09:54

@nztim ... can the old copper power feed actually damage the router?

I've read opinions saying yes and no, presumably country/system differences at play.

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#2596148 2-Nov-2020 10:07

Rickles:

@nztim ... can the old copper power feed actually damage the router?

I've read opinions saying yes and no, presumably country/system differences at play.

Maybe, Maybe not but you will get Double Dial/Disconnect tones, it wont be pretty

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#2596149 2-Nov-2020 10:10

Rickles:

@nztim ... nothing on the ringer unit, so I guess simply suck-it-and-see?

what brand is it? might be able to look it up online

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#2596157 2-Nov-2020 10:45

What type of ringer is it? Most I've come across have a REN of 3+ , they really do such the power.

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#2596161 2-Nov-2020 10:57

The ringer has no branding, just a small round (40mm diameter) unit with a BT plug on the back.

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