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#71369 9-Nov-2010 15:35
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I called TelstraClear today to ask how much i'd save if I took my home phone out of my package, since that price isn't on their website as far as I could see. I was on hold for about 5 minutes, which is about normal, and then even though i'd chosen the correct prompts I was then told i'd been connected to the wrong department and had to stay on hold for another 5 minutes to talk to someone else.

Once I was talking to the right person, in Manilla, he put me on hold then came back to tell me I couldn't remove the phone line as I had broadband. I told him he was wrong, I was on cable, and I could remove the service. He put me on hold again, then came back and told me because I had digital TV I couldn't remove the phone line. I told him he was wrong again, that it worked over its own cable modem and the cable network. He put me on hold again, then came back and gave me the information I wanted (you save $39.95 per month by removing the phone line).

I told him i'd like to file a complaint, and I was transferred to the disconnections department in New Zealand. The woman was helpful though, listened to what I said, and said she'd pass the information along. I felt like I was being fobbed off or ignored though.

So, the complaint is that twice they incorrectly told me I couldn't remove the phone line, and it's only because i'm technical that I knew they were incorrect. If my parents had called up they'd have accepted this and paid the $460 per year, not a huge sum but it adds up. It's obviously in their own best interest to keep taking money for an unnecessary service, which is getting close to fraud.

I wonder if I should look into a complaint with some telecommunications authority. That way TelstraClear might actually listen, acknowledge the mistake, and try to prevent it happening again.

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  #402156 9-Nov-2010 15:40
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  #402162 9-Nov-2010 15:43
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Thanks John. It's not really a dispute, since they'll do what I asked, it's that they repeatedly provided incorrect information that's to their financial advantage.

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  #402166 9-Nov-2010 15:47
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So how much are you paying for Cable Broadband and Digital TV? what plan you on and are you using the new home media PVR? just yesterday I went into the retial shop in christchurch only to be told that I had to have the phone line which I really don't want.



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  #402181 9-Nov-2010 15:58
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I pay about $220/month, which will drop by $40/month.

It seems that they're telling everyone they must have a phone line. I think i'll go ahead with a formal complaint, as they're being dishonest, giving out false information, and profiting from that disinformation.

If anyone has had the same experience please let me know by PM/email i'll put your name and phone number on the complaint, to show it's not an isolated case.

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  #402279 9-Nov-2010 18:33
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timmmay: 

So, the complaint is that twice they incorrectly told me I couldn't remove the phone line, and it's only because i'm technical that I knew they were incorrect. If my parents had called up they'd have accepted this and paid the $460 per year, not a huge sum but it adds up. It's obviously in their own best interest to keep taking money for an unnecessary service, which is getting close to fraud.



 

Actually you are wrong and the Rep is correct.  You must have the phone line to have digital TV; I am not disputing that it is technically possible - TC just do not offer it as an option and thus you cannot drop the phoneline without also dropping the TV option. Personally I think its dumb, and I am one who would use TC for TV if they offered it without a phone.

 



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  #402293 9-Nov-2010 19:11
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Actually you are wrong and the Rep is correct.  You must have the phone line to have digital TV; I am not disputing that it is technically possible - TC just do not offer it as an option and thus you cannot drop the phoneline without also dropping the TV option. Personally I think its dumb, and I am one who would use TC for TV if they offered it without a phone.


A website doesn't have to have exhaustive pricing, and you can buy the bits individually. The disconnections department confirmed that I could have both internet and TV without a phone, and was prepared to do it then and there for me.



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  #402306 9-Nov-2010 19:34
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You have to have a phone if you want TV, thats always been the hook. If you want just cable internet you can have that but as soon as you want TV you have to have a phone line. It says it on the website and always has. non-issue.

 
 
 

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geekiegeek: You have to have a phone if you want TV, thats always been the hook. If you want just cable internet you can have that but as soon as you want TV you have to have a phone line. It says it on the website and always has. non-issue.


Then why did the disconnections department tell me they'd remove it for me? Technically it's not a requirement, it's just to increase revenue.

If they came back and told me I had to have a phone line to have cable TV i'd probably get rid of cable TV and just get internet. I don't watch the TV anyway, it's only on for sports that one person in the house watches very occasionally.

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  #402310 9-Nov-2010 19:59
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Those saying you have to have phone if you have TV.. opps I have had internet and TV only with Telstra Clear for a few years now... hmm strange they have not noticed :-P

Seriously though. My understanding is that it is the other way around. You cannot drop the phone unless you have one of the medium to high end internet plans and TV with them.







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  #402311 9-Nov-2010 20:01
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I have 90GB internet, TV with sports, and a second decoder. That's a pretty decent plan i'd think.

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  #402350 9-Nov-2010 21:08
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I dont understand what you are trying to achieve?? You were wrong, and have no grounds for a "formal complaint". Its the way it is, and has been since I can remember! Get rid of the package and grab Sky + cable.

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  #402352 9-Nov-2010 21:11
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itxtme: I dont understand what you are trying to achieve?? You were wrong, and have no grounds for a "formal complaint". Its the way it is, and has been since I can remember! Get rid of the package and grab Sky + cable.


I'm not wrong. The girl I talked to in New Zealand said she'd be happy to remove the phone line from my package, and a couple of posts up Nety says he's been doing exactly that for the past couple of years.

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  #402359 9-Nov-2010 21:15
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Why would the girl in NZ tell me I didn't need it then, and offer to remove it from my package?

It has to be a marketing/revenue requirement, since it doesn't use the phone line at all.

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  #402361 9-Nov-2010 21:18
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I have no idea, I just know it is and always has been the standard.

 

Directly from TC's current TOS for InHome Customers (ie you) http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/company-info/terms-and-conditions/inhome.cfm

HighSpeed 1G and 5G Internet plans and Digital TV services are not available on a standalone basis. You must sign up for TelstraClear's InHome PhoneLine service to obtain these services.

 

 

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