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Topic # 9461 19-Sep-2006 11:33
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A price battle for market share looms as Vodafone prepares to take on Telecom for the mobile broadband dollar in the Waikato.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/waikatotimes/0,2106,3801160a6415,00.html

Waikato Times: 18th September 2006




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  Reply # 46454 19-Sep-2006 12:05
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Wow GPRS is 1.8Mbps! There is no way in hell that anyone will ever get 10.8Mbps over HSDPA. I would put money on it! Another poorly written and researched article!




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  Reply # 46456 19-Sep-2006 12:24
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mmm, Has anyone seen this article??


Vodafone seems to think it's HSDPA network is the 'smartest' in the world, and will always offer a speed advantage of Telecoms CDMA network. Interesting, seeing that EVDO RevB and the RevC is not that far away...







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  Reply # 46464 19-Sep-2006 12:44
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RevA has lower latency and higher upload speeds than HSDPA. This is all done in a 1.25MHz carrier vs an HSDPA 5MHz carrier. Who is smarter?




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  Reply # 46465 19-Sep-2006 12:48
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Jama: RevA has lower latency and higher upload speeds than HSDPA. This is all done in a 1.25MHz carrier vs an HSDPA 5MHz carrier. Who is smarter?


Why Telecom of course!! Laughing







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  Reply # 46466 19-Sep-2006 12:54
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Therein lies the issue that the technical knowledge of most IT/business writers in NZ is very low. If you don't understand what you are writing then you can hardly write a balanced story!

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Reply # 46467 19-Sep-2006 13:00
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The whole article is basically BS.

If you are reading this for the first time in your life:

Mr Ellis said HSDPA could deliver 10.8mbps at optimum speed, compared with 3.6mbps for 3G. In comparison the GPRS network had a maximum speed of 1.8mbps.


Vodafone's 3G is max 384Kbps down. HSDPA is being launched at 3.6Mbps down in some centres, and realistically it's 1.8Mbps down from the start. GPRS is a max of 52Kbps around here.

You can see this paragraph contains 0 information, and 0 research. Don't trust it.

Redirect it to the Internet trashcan.




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  Reply # 46469 19-Sep-2006 13:24
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I think it comes back to one of the points that were raised during my talk at GZ06: if you don't have the knowledge of the fundamentals, and rely on quoting those who are supposed to know, how do you write from a point of authority? The WT writer quoted a Vodafone employee, who should know better.

As for the Dompost one, the "smarts" of Voda's network seems to be mainly that it's able to allocate bandwidth according to usage. That's nice, but Patel's saying it'll be used to bump up user density per cell mainly.

It would've been nice if some of Patel's statements had been challenged, like:

Mr Patel says Vodafone's research shows its plans will cater to 95 per cent of internet users, if dial-up internet users are included.


Is this really correct? The Vodem and data cards for HSDPA cost an awful lot more than dial-up modems, and the plans themselves cost more too. What did Voda's research say here?




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Reply # 46527 19-Sep-2006 23:52
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Those who can, do

Those who can't, teach

Those who don't know enough to teach, write

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Reply # 46536 20-Sep-2006 10:23
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Don't forgot that Telecom needs to upgrade to wireless CDMA!
Its a huge disadvantage using CDMA while being limited to a cable.
(Old herald article about wcdma if anyone is wondering)

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Shocking article writing some reporters need a kick in the butt


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