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danza
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  #2670900 10-Mar-2021 09:26
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sbiddle:

xlinknz:


Surely it would not be a good look if there is a death(s) because a 111 call was unable to made due to the handset that made the call did not support VoLTE. I wonder if the appropriate govt organisation responsible for 111 is aware of this issue?



Yes they are fully aware of it. It was MBIE who funded (and for all intents and purposes designed) the RCG solution. That's why this subject and threats of complaints to the Commerce Commission really don't make any sense.


As also pointed out already it also means somebody roaming in NZ will have zero access to voice services in a RCG only coverage area even if they have a VoLTE compatible phone since there are currently no 4G VoLTE roaming agreements.


Likewise if you leave NZ with say a Vodafone iPhone with VoLTE and connect to a roaming network that only has VoLTE for voice (which will happen in the US within the next year as some networks remove 3G) you will not be able to make a voice call as their are no VoLTE roaming agreements in place.


 


 


 



You actually dont want to 'roam' on regular ol voice onto another network anyway if you have some sort of VoLTE because like others have said, VoLTE is basically data/packet based voice, which means wifi calling will most likely be available on the same device too. Then you can cram all the VoLTE packets through wifi, even when you are oversea, and get local rates.

The best and cheapest setup on modern iphone is to keep the main line on one sim, disable roaming, then have a second sim for data based in another country wherever you are at.

Then you can still receive calls on your main nz line through wifi calling/volte, even when you are oversea, using the 'data' pipe from the local sim.


Reason why volte/wifi calling kinda go hand in hand and hard to enable is because it essentially opens a pipe directly to the telco's backend. And besides the security implications, a lot of the manufacturers wouldn't really be bothered to get it done in order to save money.



danza
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  #2670945 10-Mar-2021 10:35
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Oh and another nice thing about VoLTE is that the spectrum usage is way more efficient than 3G/2G. So you can essentially have 2~4 times more calls/bitrate through the same amount of frequency.

There's also much better call quality and instant call-dial that makes it similar to landline.

As for the devices it's really up to the manufacturers. Even the iphone needed software update for volte to be enabled properly on carriers back in the days. But at least anything since 2015, something like the iphone 6s and newer, will be able to run volte and wifi calling just fine with the latest updates etc.

MadEngineer
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  #2687359 6-Apr-2021 17:38
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Something to check: if you’ve moved your phone from spark to Vodafone be sure to check that they have turned on 4G on your account. Have found that this isn’t automatically done by Vodafone.

Your phone will look otherwise normal but you’ll have obvious reception issues. A side effect of this problem is that you can’t access the call forwarding option on iPhones with volte turned on.




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  #2738017 2-Jul-2021 16:53
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I mean it's not just parallel imported phones that suffer from a lack of VoLTE. Spark's own website in 2021 barely sells any phones with VoLTE for <$200.

Spark Pocket 2 - $99 - no VoLTE
Spark Plus 3 - $129 - no VoLTE
Nokia 1.3 - $169 - no VoLTE
Huawei Y5 2019 - $169 - no VoLTE
Samsung Galaxy A02s - $199 - yes VoLTE
Nokia G20 - $279 - yes VoLTE
Samsung Galaxy A12 - $299 - yes VoLTE
Oppo A5 2020 - $299 - yes VoLTE

The budget VoLTE scene is much better in Australia particularly since the Telstra own-branded models are also frequently discounted. I would really like Spark to put more effort into supporting their own branded phones more.

Telstra Lite 2 - $49 - yes VoLTE
Telstra Essential - $79 - no VoLTE but 2017 model?
Telstra Essential Smart 3 - $99 - yes VoLTE
Telstra Essential Plus 3 - $119 - yes VoLTE
Nokia 2.3 - $129 - yes VoLTE
Telstra Essential Pro - $139 - yes VoLTE
Oppo A53s - $199 - no VoLTE but OOS
Oppo A5 2020 - $229 - yes VoLTE
Samsung Galaxy A12/A21s - $249 - yes VoLTE

Just a question, would an unlocked AU stock Nokia 3.4 work on Spark? Nokia 3.4 is listed on the Spark support page.

Thanks in advance.


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