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#319562 8-May-2025 12:54
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Hi all,

 

I've always valued the feedback from this community over the years, whether it be a PM or a poke in a topic, and it may come as no surprise that Geekzone is the highest non-search/non-corporate (eg, Teams) http referrer to GIS Geek.

 

I was keen to start a thread on general updates to the site, but also wanted to hear from anyone on things they'd like to see added, or even things they think are broken / bugs I may not be aware of.

 

No more Google.

 

While I mention this on the About page, it’s probably true to say that if it wasn’t for Google Fusion Tables, GIS Geek wouldn’t exist. Today though, there’s nothing Google left. Few reasons for this:

 

     

  1. Google isn’t the company they were 10 years ago. The updates to their API pricing are wack. The investment they've made into the Maps JS library is wack. Mapbox and MapLibre (open source form of Mapbox and what we now use) are superior.
  2. I had investigated moving to Mapbox around 2021 but their Satellite imagery of New Zealand was subpar and at the time it would have been more expensive.
  3. LINZ Basemaps released a 3D DEM tiled layer literally the week I was about to start figuring out how to process their ~20gb all NZ elevation data into one I could use on the web. Side note. Massive plug for LINZ. They do awesome work.

 

That being said, I am not 100% satisfied with the implementation here. It doesn't appear that LINZ do any radiometric normalization on the aerial photography which means different image captures don't blend as well together as they do on Google, but they are much higher resolution. There’s also some rendering bugs I need to work on on my side, and my preferred layer on Google Maps was the Terrain layer which I haven't been able to replicate to my liking yet. Work in progress.

 

User contributed content

 

The most common email I get is some version of - “This <Cell Tower | Point to Point | Land Mobile Radio> site is not where your website says it is” - my standard response has generally been to bring it up with RSM, but their response is to bring it up with the Engineer / Licence Owner, and generally speaking, I'm not sure RSM nor the Engineer really had time to deal with it.

 

In the last week I made live a couple of features I’ve been churning on for a while which is the ability for (logged in) users to propose a location correction for a site, and upload photos of a site. You can see an example on the OneNZ Methven tower details page. Couple of points:

 

     

  1. You’ll always be able to tell if a tower has a different location from its official record.
  2. (When logged in) if you click the “Location Correction” button you’ll see the RSM location and the new location.
  3. Both photos and location corrections currently require manual acceptance and the workflow for this (for me) is currently not ideal. Something I’m working on behind the scenes. Just means if you’re submitting things and not seeing them reflected in ~24 hours, it might just be another couple of days.

 

So, with all that said. What else would you like to see? What bugs do you deal with that I probably don't know about?





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  #3371474 8-May-2025 13:28
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Thanks for the explanations above and including us in this way.

At the risk of this thread running away with similar posts, thanks for the work you do providing this top notch resource!



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  #3371585 9-May-2025 07:09
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Thanks for your awesome site!

 

 

 

Is there a way to see in an RSS feed or similar a list of the newest approved towers?


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  #3371615 9-May-2025 09:39
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Thank you for all your hard work and excellent website.




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  #3371660 9-May-2025 10:59
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@grantius I have a paywalled beta feature where this is covered via emails:

 

 

 

Eg:

 

 


It'll also be available via an API. Hadn't considered RSS, honestly, I wasn't aware how many people still used RSS :)

 

Realise it kinda sucks that it's paywalled. The principle that I try and follow here is the majority of the base functionality should always be available to everyone. I should always be able to do some basic filtering, I should always be able to browse around on a map and click on towers / etc and understand what they provide. "Insights" around the data I generally paywall to try and recoup some costs.

 

RSM does some odd stuff here also, the reason the feature is beta is because licence renewals can appear as "new" licences, so I have to do some additional work on this feature.





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  #3371671 9-May-2025 11:40
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I love the idea behind the site but I've never found much use for the data personally. Only when we moved in to see why our spark coverage was rubbish.

 

 

 

There's definitely huge gaps that could do with some better source data to plug or centralise in the geospatial industry but you'd probably need backing to deploy stuff like that. It's an industry that feels like it's growing quickly but most companies shroud their data in secrecy to the outside world.


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  #3371758 9-May-2025 14:54
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I use this a lot! for many different reasons!, one thing i would love to see is the integration in to the Chorus, vocus, old FX networks, vodafone and vital maps with the Main fiber routes pit locations and so on, but that will probably never happen.

 

 This resource has always been handy in the way of looking up sites for information about internet cell coverage and mush more!

 

Keep up the Good work.

 

 


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  #3371760 9-May-2025 15:03
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stubbed:

 

It'll also be available via an API. Hadn't considered RSS, honestly, I wasn't aware how many people still used RSS :)

 

 

A lot of people use RSS. I wouldn't have any other way to check news items.





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  #3371761 9-May-2025 15:04
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@acsylaa If someone has that data it would be trivial to include on the fixed line viewer. That's partly why I renamed that from copper...

@freitasm yep noted. I'll definitely keep it in mind for a "feed" option. I default to GeoJSON for a lot of the data because there's often one to many relationships for the RSM data.





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  #3371762 9-May-2025 15:15
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Is there the potential to have a version of this site for our Australian friends?


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  #3371763 9-May-2025 15:27
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Definitely potential. Appetite, not sure. Would need to make a call on basically rebuilding the existing site to handle multiple different types of input data or run two copies, pros and cons for each.





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  #3371769 9-May-2025 16:34
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stubbed:

 

@acsylaa If someone has that data it would be trivial to include on the fixed line viewer. That's partly why I renamed that from copper...

 


 

I do have a feed that you may be interested in for RCG, voda and spark.

 

send me a message if  you want to take a look.

 

 


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  #3371772 9-May-2025 17:04
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Is there any way to show which carriers have services on RCG cellsites? I can't seem to figure out who has what services (if applicable) on which cellsite.

 

Great site too 🙂


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  #3372130 10-May-2025 22:08
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@quickymart - Not from the data that I have access too :(





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  #3372131 10-May-2025 22:15
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All good 🙂 is there some way to show a legend for what colour dot means what?

 

For the mobile companies I can guess (blue = 2degrees, purple = Spark, etc) but what about for cabinets?

 

eg, the area around Kaikoura:

 

 

(unless there's some way to display it that I'm missing here?) If not, maybe a discreet box or something in the top left corner outlining what colour each dot relates to?


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  #3372133 10-May-2025 22:33
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On each viewer, the colours of the items are somewhere in the dropdowns. They vary per viewer just because each one does something slightly different.

Eg, Cell Towers, it's the providers dropdown. PTP and LMR it's the Bands, Fixed Line is Best Service:

 





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