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#62095 27-Feb-2007 08:31

nzgadgetman: Interesting... sounds like a PITA... I'd love a '400, but with an FXO card it's like $300+, unless you can find one cheaper ;)

I can get you as clone of the TDM400, saves about 40% on the Digium hardware, but lacks a Telepermit so you would be "unable" to connect it to a TNZ line. But it is fully supported in Asterisk, and shows up as a TDM400. You would be able to use FXOTUNE wich would go a long way to removing echo, if any, from your lines/setup.

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#62190 27-Feb-2007 21:12

I had an intel modem that wouldnt reliably detect rings at all, and then would detect rings when the line was in use, and it had hell echo. then got a clone of a x101 or whichever is the modified modem, and that would reliably detect rings, but still false answered when I was talking on the line not via asterisk and it echoed to hell as well.

Then got a real x100 or whichever is the one before current, and whattya know, still echoed, still false detected rings and talking thru it was not present. I was trying to use asterisk to grab the line on the first line and hangup if it was a withheld number or one that was blacklisted, and if it wasnt, it wouldnt answer untill 15 seconds and then offer to take a message. I did this because I just couldnt stand talking on it with it being x100-asterisk-ata-phone. They all would think it was ringing and start playing stuff when I was talking on the line.

I would have tried another fxo, but got a flatmate so nolonger needed a landline since they wanted one, so just tried italk, which was better then the x100's but still crap to talk on compared with a direct telecom line into a phone. In the end, being bothered by people I dont really want to bother me made it easier to just not bother ;)

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#62207 27-Feb-2007 23:46

Can you use old hardware (serial) modems with Asterisk? I have just hauled out a pile of them and some use would be nice.

Hmmmm. I also have an ISA 12-port voice card called "brooktrout TR114" 12 port version, made 1994. It was originally used for spam-faxing/IVR so a nicer use in it's golden years would be much nicer!

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#62212 28-Feb-2007 00:12

hardware modem - no, they do not have a seperate control and audio channel like software/host processor modems do. Someone who was motivated could in theory make any software modem and possibly a lot of host assisted ones work, but with the availability of the x100s etc then why bother?

And the IVR card, if its dialogic compatable you may be able to. Loads of those cards just ripped off some of the dialogics interface so they had an immediate software base, but later ones didnt since the shift to windows and tapi made it less relevent. Not all the dialogics will work since you need one thats full duplex which hardly any old ones were.

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#62221 28-Feb-2007 06:46

richms: I had an intel modem that wouldnt reliably detect rings at all, and then would detect rings when the line was in use, and it had hell echo. then got a clone of a x101 or whichever is the modified modem, and that would reliably detect rings, but still false answered when I was talking on the line not via asterisk and it echoed to hell as well.

Then got a real x100 or whichever is the one before current, and whattya know, still echoed, still false detected rings and talking thru it was not present. I was trying to use asterisk to grab the line on the first line and hangup if it was a withheld number or one that was blacklisted, and if it wasnt, it wouldnt answer untill 15 seconds and then offer to take a message. I did this because I just couldnt stand talking on it with it being x100-asterisk-ata-phone. They all would think it was ringing and start playing stuff when I was talking on the line.

I would have tried another fxo, but got a flatmate so nolonger needed a landline since they wanted one, so just tried italk, which was better then the x100's but still crap to talk on compared with a direct telecom line into a phone. In the end, being bothered by people I dont really want to bother me made it easier to just not bother ;)

Most of the authentic Digium x100 problems and most of the clones are the fact these were only ever designed for the US market and therefore use the phone line impedance for NZ. This causes all sorts of problems including all those you list above.

I know people love to slam iTalk but I've used it as my primary landline number over TCL cable since last August and have never experienced a single issue with call quality using ulaw as the voice codec, it is absolutely rock solid. I believe 99% of the voice quality issues are either people trying to use VoIP over a dodgy ADSL connection or configuring their own ATA's with incorrect settings. This is the exact reason why VFX (and many ITSP's around the world) lock down their ATA's.

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#62231 28-Feb-2007 08:57

Intesting information all round... As I can't afford a '400 right now, I'll just give a X100P a go. tonyhughes works with me and he's using a X100P and having no problems, so it appears that (as a few of you have said) it's dependant on the quality of the phoneline that you're connecting it to.

Skyplonk, you have mail :)

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#62232 28-Feb-2007 09:05

Tony is using his with a SPA3102 (looped together) which can have the impedance set for the required country. By default it's set to the USA standard so should work fine when hooked up together.

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#62235 28-Feb-2007 09:09

AFAIK he's using 2 x X100P's. 1 looped back to the SP3102 to achieve a SIP trunk to WxC from Asterisk, and the other connected to the phone line for PSTN connectivity... I'll confirm this when he gets in today.

9:15am start for Tony today. Nice for some! The above is correct, he has confirmed.

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