Huawei HG659: can I use this as a wired ATA only?

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JPT

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#306256 8-Jul-2023 15:34

Hi,

I have an Huawei HG659 modem/router, which also has an ATA outlet for my VOIP phone line to work with analog phone hand sets.

I am moving to a new modem, which has no ATA outlet. My question is: Will I be able to convert my HG659 into a home network switch AND use it as an ATA then to plug in my phones?

(I'm familiar with turning a routert into a switch, but will the ATA side work afterwards too?)

Many thanks in advance for any insights.

coffeebaron

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#3101405 8-Jul-2023 17:09

Yes you can. It will need to stay in router mode, but as long as you're not connecting anything else through it, then all good. Set WAN to DHCP, no VLAN, turn off the Wi-Fi and you should be good to program it as an ATA only. Note, you'll need to plug in to one off its LAN ports when you program it up.
The only other thing to consider is ideally being with a provider that doesn't use CGNAT.

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JPT

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#3103252 12-Jul-2023 15:34

Thank you @coffeebaron. Very helpful. Great to know it should work and worthwhile a try.

Forgive me, I'm no expert:

When I leave it in router mode, (i.e. = DHCP ON?), does that mean it remains the one and only router in the network that assigns IP addresses? Or can it coexist as a second router with the MAIN DHCP router (because nothing else goes through the HG659, it will not assign addresses)? Leave DHCP ON on the HG659? (At the moment, it has a fixed 192.168.1.1 address.)

When I set WAN to DHCP, does that mean the HG659 will get its IP address from the MAIN router with DHCP active?

I'm with OneNZ at the moment. Don't know whether they use CGNAT or not, but at the moment VOIP works over the HG659 with 2Talk and on VDSL. Will move to fibre sometime soon, or maybe StarLink.

Many thanks again :-)

shk292

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#3103309 12-Jul-2023 16:15

JPT:

Thank you @coffeebaron. Very helpful. Great to know it should work and worthwhile a try.

Forgive me, I'm no expert:

When I leave it in router mode, (i.e. = DHCP ON?), does that mean it remains the one and only router in the network that assigns IP addresses? Or can it coexist as a second router with the MAIN DHCP router (because nothing else goes through the HG659, it will not assign addresses)? Leave DHCP ON on the HG659? (At the moment, it has a fixed 192.168.1.1 address.)

When I set WAN to DHCP, does that mean the HG659 will get its IP address from the MAIN router with DHCP active?

I'm with OneNZ at the moment. Don't know whether they use CGNAT or not, but at the moment VOIP works over the HG659 with 2Talk and on VDSL. Will move to fibre sometime soon, or maybe StarLink.

Many thanks again :-)

Connected as coffeebaron recommended, the HG659 will still do DHCP but only for devices connected to its WiFi or LAN ports - ie just the ATA in your case. The ATA would be getting double-NAT in this case, but I don't think that will be a problem (because coffeebaron knows about this stuff). So, HG659 gets an IP address on its WAN port from your main router in the same way as any other LAN client. This is similar to what happens with customer's routers connected to CGNAT. Everything coexists nicely because that's what routers and NAT do

speed

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#3103362 12-Jul-2023 16:44

shk292:

Everything coexists nicely because that's what routers and NAT do

Mahahaha :) Quote of the century! Absolute gold.

JPT

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#3103542 13-Jul-2023 09:34

shk292:

Connected as coffeebaron recommended, the HG659 will still do DHCP but only for devices connected to its WiFi or LAN ports - ie just the ATA in your case. The ATA would be getting double-NAT in this case, but I don't think that will be a problem (because coffeebaron knows about this stuff). So, HG659 gets an IP address on its WAN port from your main router in the same way as any other LAN client. This is similar to what happens with customer's routers connected to CGNAT. Everything coexists nicely because that's what routers and NAT do

Thank you shk292. I will try to install this that way when connected to WAN. Many thanks all for the kind help. Cheers

shk292

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#3103743 13-Jul-2023 16:35

speed:

shk292:

Everything coexists nicely because that's what routers and NAT do

Mahahaha :) Quote of the century! Absolute gold.

Maybe a "should" is needed in there!