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  #3234259 24-May-2024 13:00
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Operating Systems became feature complete around the time of plug and play drivers, since then we have had twenty years, of "meh, whatever" along with a few upsets of Vista and Windows 8.

 

We have now reached the territory of the only things left are things we actually do not want.




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  #3234287 24-May-2024 13:47
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It's a terrible idea. I wouldn't touch it with a 20 foot pole. 

 

Potentially good for law enforcement, employment court or family court dispute plaintiffs though - if the other side suspects/alleges you have been up to anything they can get a court order to see everything you have done or looked at on your PC now.


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  #3234340 24-May-2024 16:35
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1984 called, they want their plot line back... 





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  #3245070 6-Jun-2024 07:52
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JimmyH: It's a terrible idea. I wouldn't touch it with a 20 foot pole. ...

 

See: This Hacker Tool Extracts All the Data Collected by Windows’ New Recall AI





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  #3245082 6-Jun-2024 08:54
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roobarb:

 

Operating Systems became feature complete around the time of plug and play drivers, since then we have had twenty years, of "meh, whatever" along with a few upsets of Vista and Windows 8.

 

We have now reached the territory of the only things left are things we actually do not want.

 

 

Windows would be a very fast OS if it wasn't so loaded with bloat that we don't need. And I'm not talking about OEM pre-installed applications on brand new devices. 





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Looks like someone came out with a tool to extract and display data from the Recall feature in Windows 11.

 

https://github.com/xaitax/TotalRecall

 

Makes for really interesting reading.

 

 


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https://x.com/gossithedog/status/1798832929575203095?s=12&t=TM7WO9-3JTHInSGVDz39cg

 

 

 

Absolutely nuts anyone would consider releasing this.

 

Recall needs to be recalled, and it isn't even out yet!

 

 


 
 
 

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  #3245811 7-Jun-2024 20:23
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Removal is easy. Trust me. This won't hurt at all:


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How did the security vulnerability get past functional testing or even how did it get past the scrutiny of senior directors/VPs at Microsoft? 





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  #3245815 7-Jun-2024 20:44
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turtleattacks:

How did the security vulnerability get past functional testing or even how did it get past the scrutiny of senior directors/VPs at Microsoft? 



The same way all vulnerabilities get past. What is this senior director scrutiny you speak of?

It's an Insider version. Testing is its purpose.

I think folks are being pretty harsh about beta software. Hassle the concept all you want, but what do you want from a beta if not to surface vulnerabilities?

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  #3245816 7-Jun-2024 20:46
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The articles so far seem to be based on prerelease versions of the feature, according to ZDNet. Either way it looks like a PR disaster management plan might be required at this point.

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gzt: The articles so far seem to be based on prerelease versions of the feature, according to ZDNet. Either way it looks like a PR disaster management plan might be required at this point.

 

 

 

You'd think QA would be less expensive overall. They never learn.


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This is so bad it's not funny.

 

A PR disaster: Microsoft has lost trust with its users, and Windows Recall is the straw that broke the camel's back | Windows Central

 

Add Recall module for dumping all users Microsoft Recall DBs & screenshots by Marshall-Hallenbeck · Pull Request #335 · Pennyw0rth/NetExec · GitHub

 

GitHub - xaitax/TotalRecall: This tool extracts and displays data from the Recall feature in Windows 11, providing an easy way to access information about your PC's activity snapshots.

 

All your typed data compressed into a few KB of SQLite?  

 

 

 


Edit - I see those links or similar have been posted already :)

 

 

 

I made this comment elsewhere, but if you're a computer programmer surely you'd understand that keylogging is evil.  I'm imagining the poor programmer at MS entering code for this has two smashed ankles and is chained to his desk.





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  #3245838 7-Jun-2024 23:27
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The other side of the PR disaster coin is this will probably be updated to some extent with options and the whole thing will blow over. Ie; the old which other business desktop operating system are you seriously considering as a replacement? question. ; )

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networkn: You'd think QA would be less expensive overall. They never learn.

It is, but you can still have it all and not listen to it ; ).

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