I wonder how many of these laptops are going to hit the 2nd hand market with "Windows 11".

Wombat1:

 

I wonder how many of these laptops are going to hit the 2nd hand market with "Windows 11".

 

A lot, I hope. Doesn't seem a good idea to have the works littered with dead un-upgradable PCs, or to have it populated by unsafe Win10 PCs, or to have lots of new, large, holes dug to mine the metals for new PCs.

No downside, only upside. With probably 8 GB RAM they will be fine for many ordinary peoples' uses. Hopefully, another upside might be that they won't run Co-Pilot!

W10 holds 64% share of Windows PC market, 2 times its successor's W11 share of 32%,

Source: Wikipedia

MS will cave just as they did when W10 lacked support for Skylake.

I'm holding out for W12. :D

K8Toledo:

 

W10 holds 64% share of Windows PC market, 2 times its successor's W11 share of 32%,

 

Source: Wikipedia

 

MS will cave just as they did when W10 lacked support for Skylake.

 

I'm holding out for W12. :D

 

W10 Release date 29 July 2015

W11 Release date 5 October 2021

Its also been out for 3x as long

Jase2985:

 

K8Toledo:

 

W10 holds 64% share of Windows PC market, 2 times its successor's W11 share of 32%,

 

Source: Wikipedia

 

MS will cave just as they did when W10 lacked support for Skylake.

 

I'm holding out for W12. :D

 

 

W10 Release date 29 July 2015

 

W11 Release date 5 October 2021

 

Its also been out for 3x as long

 

True but my point is W10 isn't disappearing any time soon

K8Toledo:

 

Jase2985:

 

K8Toledo:

 

W10 holds 64% share of Windows PC market, 2 times its successor's W11 share of 32%,

 

Source: Wikipedia

 

MS will cave just as they did when W10 lacked support for Skylake.

 

I'm holding out for W12. :D

 

 

W10 Release date 29 July 2015

 

W11 Release date 5 October 2021

 

Its also been out for 3x as long

 

 

True but my point is W10 isn't disappearing any time soon

 

no just the support

i have 4 pc's here on Windows 10, all will be upgraded to Windows 11 before support runs out

K8Toledo

You are correct, I just thought that there weren't many machines with 3 bays.

I'll have to research that

Thanks

mdav056:

 

Wombat1:

 

I wonder how many of these laptops are going to hit the 2nd hand market with "Windows 11".

 

 

A lot, I hope. Doesn't seem a good idea to have the works littered with dead un-upgradable PCs, or to have it populated by unsafe Win10 PCs, or to have lots of new, large, holes dug to mine the metals for new PCs.

 

No downside, only upside. With probably 8 GB RAM they will be fine for many ordinary peoples' uses. Hopefully, another upside might be that they won't run Co-Pilot!

 

Microsoft has warned that they may not get security updates in the future though.

Wombat1:

 

Microsoft has warned that they may not get security updates in the future though.

 

And....? 😁

Jase2985:

 

i have 4 pc's here on Windows 10, all will be upgraded to Windows 11 before support runs out

I have only two Windows 10 PCs, but they both say they can't be upgraded to Windows 11.
One is an ex-lease laptop, probably six or seven years old, so not a surprise that it can't be upgraded. The other is a desktop that was 'nearly new' when Windows-11 came out, so a surprise & disappointment that it couldn't/can't be upgraded other than the registry hack which I believe doesn't work with the latest Windows 11 updates.

I guess I'll buy a year's extended support for both (? ~$100?) and see what's what late 2026.

PolicyGuy:

 

Jase2985:

 

i have 4 pc's here on Windows 10, all will be upgraded to Windows 11 before support runs out

 

I have only two Windows 10 PCs, but they both say they can't be upgraded to Windows 11.
One is an ex-lease laptop, probably six or seven years old, so not a surprise that it can't be upgraded. The other is a desktop that was 'nearly new' when Windows-11 came out, so a surprise & disappointment that it couldn't/can't be upgraded other than the registry hack which I believe doesn't work with the latest Windows 11 updates.

 

I guess I'll buy a year's extended support for both (? ~$100?) and see what's what late 2026.

 

2 of mine officially support it 2 dont, ill try the registry way and see. Those 2 i don't really care about too much are they are rarely on.

To be honest, I can't stand Windows 11. 

TBH it isn't much different to windows 10 now after various updates. But the start menu i still a bit of a downgrade. But what I hate is the upsells it does, trying to get people to subscribe to their 365 product , often after a windows update, which they have now renamed Microsoft 365, rather than office 365. I do wonder if windows will eventually become a subscription. DO do remember MS saying that windows 10 would be the final version, when they release win 11, and then win 12

SpartanVXL: I recall someone saying that instruction sets between 4th and 9th gen Intel haven’t changed, but for some reason they’re cutting off support before 8th gen. That and TPM as a requirement just makes it appear forced.

I would just stick with win10 until the end of update support, then if win11 is still worth upgrading to just use the bypass.

I have been using win 11 on a 7th gen CPU for several year without issue and it is still very snappy. IMO the days of a PC only lasting 5 years before it got slowed down by windows, which was common 15+ years ago, are over due to windows now being mature and not as bloated with newer versions. But I suspect some of this AI stuff is going to change things, like it is for the new iphones, where you need the newest gen iphone to get the Apple Intelligence features.