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Topic # 126962 25-Jul-2013 09:22
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I have had another (Seagate) drive fail on me and this has exposed a weakness in my file backup strategy.  I have a home network of 3 PCs, one of which is used as a backup file server to the other 2.  The server is running Win 8, the other 2 are Win 7.

The most volatile data I have on the PC with the dead disk is email client files (Windows Live Mail in this case).  I use an on-demand backup tool (www.memeo.com) to backup locally and remotely to a server PC on the LAN, supplemented by monthly backups to my SKYDRIVE account using SYNCBACK.  The problem is that with email client files Memeo detects file change and takes control of each file briefly to back it up.  When an email message is pulled from the (POP) server the files involved are locked for backup briefly and any attempt to access the message gets an IO error.  Therefore for Livemail files Memeo was not used to back up the files to the Server PC because file locks could last too long.  Accordingly I now have just the monthly backup to restore these files as the only available files to restore from are on the server and Skydrive.

I could use Skydrive to protect these files but because the data is fairly volatile I can see my data cap being threatened.  The Skydrive approach - but to my Server instead of the Cloud - would seem the best option though and would render Memeo redundant.  Is this possible?

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  Reply # 865599 25-Jul-2013 09:31
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Move away from POP to cloud email?



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  Reply # 865629 25-Jul-2013 09:47
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nathan: Move away from POP to cloud email?


As I understand this the email client requires cloud access to work.  If so this is not an option because a lot of my email activity is to read old messages and I am not always online when doing so.

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  Reply # 865636 25-Jul-2013 09:54
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nathan: Move away from POP to cloud email?


As I understand this the email client requires cloud access to work.  If so this is not an option because a lot of my email activity is to read old messages and I am not always online when doing so.


sync Live Mail against an email cloud like Outlook.com

your problem at the moment is your mail client is downloading and removing email from your ISP

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  Reply # 865646 25-Jul-2013 10:07
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Your provider doesn't offer IMAP? You can store messages locally while maintaining the server as an authoritative source. You can also copy messages locally if you want to be sure to have them offline. Using IMAP allows you to use tools like http://www.broobles.com/imapsize/index.php to manage, sync or backup messages/folders.

Sticking with your current setup, if you want to save another copy of incoming messages, set up a forward to another account, or if that option's not available from your provider do it with filters in your email client. Using a Google account for SMTP allows you to save a copy of outgoing messages. If you use Google, they have an offline capability for their webmail interface as well.

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  Reply # 865665 25-Jul-2013 10:19
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Use IMAP, cache the folders offline. Turn your email program off during backups. Don't bother to back up data on IMAP, at least not regularly.




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  Reply # 865735 25-Jul-2013 11:40
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freitasm: Have you looked at the new BitTorrent Sync?


That looks like what I was thinking of.  I will try it as an immediate solution while looking at the other suggestions.  Thanks to all for your help.



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  Reply # 865865 25-Jul-2013 13:35
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I have installed Bittorrent Sync and got it running but there is major issue - it requires the server to be running and logged on with the user that installed Bittorrent Sync.  With Memeo backup is controlled on the clients and the data written to the server using shared folders - so the server needs only to be powered up - no logged on user required.  Bittorrent Sync requires its own software to be running on all devices.

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  Reply # 867344 28-Jul-2013 13:17
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A service option should be available in the future, for now you could try http://forum.bittorrent.com/topic/18326-start-sync-as-service-on-windows/

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