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#132209 12-Oct-2013 17:20

Exchange server 2010 can send mail but no receive anything.

Current setup :

PTR --> x.x.x.1 (internal ip) point to 1.2.3.4 (public ip)
domain controller = x.x.x.1 ( abc.com )
exchange server = x.x.x.2 (internal ip)

iv setup the the PTR in the DNS server on the domain controller.
Have also setup the forwards in DNS Server on the domain controller.

For some reason the mx record keeps showing the local ip ( x.x.x.2 ) on mxtoolbox.com

Any idea why it keeps showing the internal IP of the exchange server?

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#914199 12-Oct-2013 19:19

can your exchange server be seen from the internet? i.e. if you telnet to port 25 on your external ip do you get the "220 myserver.mydomain.co.nz Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service ready" banner?

not quite sure i understand what you're doing with DNS and PTR/MX records. normally you have an A record, a PTR (if available) and an MX record.

note that a PTR record is *not* required for mail delivery. If you don't have one, you may be more likely to get blocked as spam by other mail servers.

an MX record *is* required. This is what tells other servers where to send mail for your domain.

e.g. (if your ext IP was 200.200.200.200)

External DNS records:
200.200.200.200 A myserver.mydomain.co.nz
mydomain.co.nz MX 10 myserver.mydomain.co.nz
myserver.mydomain.co.nz PTR 200.200.200.200

Internal DNS records (if using split brain DNS):
192.168.0.2 A myserver.mydomain.co.nz
mydomain.co.nz MX 10
myserver.mydomain.co.nz PTR 192.168.0.2

Normally external dns servers do not show internal records unless you explicitly load them. Not sure how you ended up with an internal IP address there.

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#914787 14-Oct-2013 13:45

Great answer by Regs.

Also for the external PTR if you're not the owner of the ip address range, you will need to get your provider who owns the ip address range to setup a reverse dns record/delegation.

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#914798 14-Oct-2013 13:54

Binary was using windows DNS server in an AD domain to host the *.mydomain.co.nz nameserver records.

Because the server was serving internal addresses, there was a need to either:
* set up a second non-AD integrated DNS server and use this for external zone (split brain DNS)
* use the domain name hosting services (godaddy) to host the external facing DNS

Easiest option was to go with external DNS services, and i think this is all up and running now.

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#914810 14-Oct-2013 14:12

Yes definitely not a good idea for AD server to be doing internal and external dns imo.

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#914824 14-Oct-2013 14:34

Regs: Binary was using windows DNS server in an AD domain to host the *.mydomain.co.nz nameserver records.

Because the server was serving internal addresses, there was a need to either:
* set up a second non-AD integrated DNS server and use this for external zone (split brain DNS)
* use the domain name hosting services (godaddy) to host the external facing DNS

Easiest option was to go with external DNS services, and i think this is all up and running now.

Thanks again for the help Reg....All is up and running...well not now due to me swopping some servers around.Did some mods to my supermicro server which sounded like a Jet taking off.Dropped the fans from 12v to 5v....working like a charm now, and most importantly, not so louuuuuuuuuuuuud.

With the D/C , i was under the impression the setup goes something like this :
Domain.com ---> internet ---> PTR points to D/C --> domain controller (distributing the required info) ---> exchange server

turns out that pointing the PTR directly to the exchange server solved everything, including the DNS management stuff you mentioned with godaddy.

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#914832 14-Oct-2013 14:38

Ragnor: Yes definitely not a good idea for AD server to be doing internal and external dns imo.

Why is that? Technical or Noob answer would be fine :)

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#914995 14-Oct-2013 19:54

BinaryLimited:
Ragnor: Yes definitely not a good idea for AD server to be doing internal and external dns imo.

Why is that? Technical or Noob answer would be fine :)

Security - there are whole bunch of attacks/exploits that are enabled by running caching/recursive and authoritative dns on the same server.
http://bestpractices.wikia.com/wiki/DNS_Introduction

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#915012 14-Oct-2013 20:08

Ragnor:
BinaryLimited:
Ragnor: Yes definitely not a good idea for AD server to be doing internal and external dns imo.

Why is that? Technical or Noob answer would be fine :)

Security - there are whole bunch of attacks/exploits that are enabled by running caching/recursive and authoritative dns on the same server.
http://bestpractices.wikia.com/wiki/DNS_Introduction

any other reasons?

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#915031 14-Oct-2013 20:36

BinaryLimited:
Ragnor:
BinaryLimited:
Ragnor: Yes definitely not a good idea for AD server to be doing internal and external dns imo.

Why is that? Technical or Noob answer would be fine :)

Security - there are whole bunch of attacks/exploits that are enabled by running caching/recursive and authoritative dns on the same server.
http://bestpractices.wikia.com/wiki/DNS_Introduction

any other reasons?

sometimes you want to run an internal IP address for a site which is different to external IP address.
e.g.
internal www.mydomain.co.nz A 192.168.1.100
external: www.mydomain.co.nz A 200.200.200.200

when accessing the www site internally, traffic will be directly to the web server instead of traversing out, then back in, the firewall. sometimes its not even possible to hit your own external IP from inside the firewall - depends on the firewall you have and the NAT/routing setup.

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