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Topic # 144129 8-May-2014 11:09
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Waiting for my LAR to get back to me but I thought I would ask here also.

Scenario: fairly grunty PC (Core i7 6 core) running specific mathematical and simulation software.

More than one user wants to access the PC to run their stuff since the CPU can cope with running different models at the same time.

I thought about two solutions.

Install Windows 2012 R2 on the PC and publish the apps. Then I guess each user needs a Windows Server CAL. Theoretically that would work but it's not clear if that apps they run would run under 2012 and they occasionally want to access the command prompt and do stuff. 

Install a hypervisor such as VMWare and run a number of Windows 7 instances on it that each user could RDP to.

It's here I get stuck with licensing. One Microsoft document I found about licensing Windows 7 for use with VM's says if the Windows licence has SA (which it does) you can run up to four instances of Windows in a local virtual OSE. But then it says only one instance per virtual OSE. (Who writes this stuff?!). This is the table that I am looking at. I am looking a row 4.



I guess I want to know is if users have licensed (SA) copies of Windows 7 Pro on their desktops, can I put VMWare (say) on a box, and then install 4 copies of Windows 7 as VM's on that box and users then RDP to the box to run their work? If so do I need 4 copies of Windows for that box or is just one SA version enough?






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  Reply # 1038903 8-May-2014 11:53
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If the Windows 7 licenses are not OEM then you can run on any hardware you want, providing they aren't being used anywhere else at the same time... 








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  Reply # 1038936 8-May-2014 12:17
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My question was, can I run 4 instances of Windows on the same box using some virtualisation technology using the same licence?

The documentation is unclear on that.




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  Reply # 1038951 8-May-2014 12:34
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You may want to look at Windows MultiPoint server.




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  Reply # 1038954 8-May-2014 12:40
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You can run two Windows Server 2012 VMs with the same key as the host.This is not possible for Windows 7 clients.






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  Reply # 1038976 8-May-2014 13:05
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Inphinity: You may want to look at Windows MultiPoint server.


That looks interesting on a first read. I'll get the tech guys to check it out.




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  Reply # 1038979 8-May-2014 13:07
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freitasm: You can run two Windows Server 2012 VMs with the same key as the host.This is not possible for Windows 7 clients.


Actually I was trying to decipher this document.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/d/4/3d42bdc2-6725-4b29-b75a-a5b04179958b/licensing_windows7_with_VM_technologies.docx





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System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast

 


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  Reply # 1038991 8-May-2014 13:23
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Not entirely sure how to interpret the virtual stuff, BUT it does state that other instances need to be accessed remotely from the machine which has been assigned the licence the VM's are using. So your use case is stuffed right there.

" Remotely access...  ... from the licensed device."




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