Anyone tried Tiny11 Builder?

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#306758 18-Aug-2023 19:46

According to description, it's consists of scripts remove bloatware from the original Windows 11 image and generate a trimmed-down image that would install on older computers.

Just wondering if anybody here had used the trimmed-down Windows 11 long term and whether it's stable.

https://github.com/ntdevlabs/tiny11builder

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#3117805 18-Aug-2023 20:07

I have not used it personally, though I looked at it quite recently as lab VM's for testing with. The main issue being my trust that there isn't something nefarious about the base installation.

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#3117921 19-Aug-2023 10:35

networkn:

I have not used it personally, though I looked at it quite recently as lab VM's for testing with. The main issue being my trust that there isn't something nefarious about the base installation.

Thanks. Yes I'm wary of that too.

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#3118280 20-Aug-2023 17:00

Interesting. I have not used it. The only external exe mentioned is oscdimg.exe. That can be obtained from MS directly, or SHA if Microsoft documents one. The scripts should be mostly human readable for review although I haven't looked.

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#3119074 22-Aug-2023 19:58

"and generate a trimmed-down image that would install on older computers"

Honestly, why bother
The answer is people like to fiddle & some think they can make windows noticably faster. :-)
If you just want some fun ,rather than serious PC , then why not I guess . But whats your time worth to you ?

Ive tried debloater "lite" installs in the distant past , there are allways compromises & some things dont work as
they should afterwards .
Chances are Winupdates wont work , or updates will reverse some of the debloat .

Old PCs dont have issues with Win10/(11) , if its a i3 or simuilar, if enough ram & if SSD
Using a SSD is the best way to improve performance on old PC's , by a huuuuuuge margin.
My old work PC & laptops were 10++ years old & both ran Win10 OK. Didnt need debloaters , just needed SSD's .
If its an old PC, just stick with win10 . Dont try & hack Win11 onto it.

If the PC is really really really old , then I wouldnt bother with it . Used i5 PCs are dirt cheap on trademe .

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#3119214 23-Aug-2023 06:49

On a similar note there is AtlasOS, does the same thing and trims down bloatware. There are pros and cons - if you're aware of them it can be a good option for a lean Windows install which is a lot lighter on the processor and memory.

But in reality Linux has plenty of options for lightweight operating systems - the only reason to use one of these trimmed down Windows for me is where there is a rare incompatibility.

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#3119226 23-Aug-2023 08:00

1101: ... Honestly, why bother ...

For me, it's no so much about older hardware.

Bloatware however is a pet peeve of mine. From memory, there also is some telemetry stuff that can only be disabled during the install process.

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#3119235 23-Aug-2023 08:26

ANglEAUT:

1101: ... Honestly, why bother ...

For me, it's no so much about older hardware.

Bloatware however is a pet peeve of mine. From memory, there also is some telemetry stuff that can only be disabled during the install process.

On modern machines with reasonable spec, I'd imagine the real-world impact of said bloat wouldn't be noticeable to the average human..

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#3119254 23-Aug-2023 09:16

networkn:

On modern machines with reasonable spec, I'd imagine the real-world impact of said bloat wouldn't be noticeable to the average human..

On modern machines it is less the performance impact as much as the pop-ups, ads, etc. See https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/windows-11-has-made-the-clean-windows-install-an-oxymoron/ for example.

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#3119383 23-Aug-2023 15:18

networkn: ... On modern machines with reasonable spec, I'd imagine the real-world impact of said bloat wouldn't be noticeable to the average human...

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#3119486 23-Aug-2023 17:05

ROFL or for the same amount of environmental impact, ride to work for 1 day :)

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#3120518 26-Aug-2023 11:51

ANglEAUT:

Bloatware however is a pet peeve of mine. From memory, there also is some telemetry stuff that can only be disabled during the install process.

Give how damn determined MS are to keep the telemetry pumping, it would be at a much lower level than what some
easy tweeking could ever hope to disable .
Where is the proof that joe average has been able to disable telemetry ?

you will also have the issue of not getting any security updates, as Winupdates have to be disabled , else much of the
tweeking is rerversed by MS when updates install.

Dont want telemetry , dont use Windows, MS Office , Chrome, Google, Firefox , AV , modern printers etc etc
And if you dont want telemetry , smash your smartphone with a hammer :-)

Just this morning , turned on my Win10 PC to see a MS popup wanting me to use BING in Chrome .
Not that long ago , that would have been classed as malware/adware

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#3120570 26-Aug-2023 12:27

networkn:

ROFL or for the same amount of environmental impact, ride to work for 1 day :)

Why not both? :)