Before the end of WIndows 10, my guess is there will not be a significant rise in Linux Users

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mattwnz

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#3359800 2-Apr-2025 16:30

I have previously used Ubuntu and it was fine except an update broke it. It looks like Linux Mint is now the new go to distro for a simple solution. But I do wonder how secure it is compared to Windows or Mac OS Ave whether people have had issues with it in terms of security. There is something attractive about iOS on the iPad and not having to be worried about security as much and ending up on a compromised website

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#3359801 2-Apr-2025 16:32

alisam:

d3Xt3r:

A lot of your Linux experience comes down to your choice of distro and DE. IMO, Ubuntu (and the GNOME desktop environment) is no longer the poster child of Linux, hasn't been for a long time. Just ask any seasoned Linux veteran — they will recommend against using Ubuntu.

Thank you for taking the time to write a detailed reply.

Like most of us Linux wannabes we have the luxury of several months to check out different distros.

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#3359812 2-Apr-2025 17:23

I always thought SCO, Xenix and System V were pretty good.

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#3359821 2-Apr-2025 17:41

I like the idea of Haiku, and the recent release of the Iceweasel browser has made it more usable, but as always the big problem is in the third-party software. I'd love to sit down with it for a week and see how it goes, but I suspect I'd struggle.

My own "end of support" moment isn't for a while yet as I'm on MacOS. Apple doesn't publish support roadmaps but I'm fairly sure that this computer will be supported until at least late 2027.

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#3359829 2-Apr-2025 18:49

TwoSeven:

I always thought SCO, Xenix and System V were pretty good.

And QNX.

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#3359892 2-Apr-2025 21:14

d3Xt3r:

While the average Windows user indeed might not say "I need to switch to Linux for this", the vast majority of home user's needs would be met by Linux just fine. After all, most people just use their PC to browse Facebook, do banking, emails, maybe some light document editing and printing/scanning etc. Most average home users shouldn't need Windows in general.

It's the ones who've got some specific needs for proprietary software like Adobe or AutoCAD, or the ones who've got advanced VBA macros or AutoHotkey scripts, or the ones who play certain games with malware-like kernel anticheat etc. I don't think these people are the vast majority of home users.

and yet, "the average Windows user" cannot simply walk into any of our big box retailers and buy a pc running Linux. they also don't need any of the good stuff that Linux allows one to do, so why deal with the hassle of installing that on a laptop/pc already on Win? and as mentioned above, Chrome OS fills that need, too.

then, there's the situation that on asking for help, and giving those requirements at HN, NL, JB, etc., the salesguy would advise an iPad.

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#3359898 2-Apr-2025 21:49

old3eyes:

And QNX.

QNX was awesome, I miss it so much. Used to be waay ahead of Linux back in the day. Ran it on my PIII 450, it could multitask like a champ and use barely any resources. It's a shame they discontinued the desktop version.

Do you also remember the awesome demo floppy they released? Blew my mind how they were able to fit a full GUI desktop, with an HTML4 and Javascript capable browser - and a full TCP/IP stack, all in 1.44MB.

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GarryP

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#3360223 3-Apr-2025 15:15

I have already changed one Win-10 machine to Linux Mint and just use it for general browsing so it is fine for that. Tried to get one Win-10 app to run on it but failed.

As for the other one, since MS wants me to spend money on new hardware, I will probably just get an Apple Mac Mini instead and so goodbye MS.

Ruphus

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#3360277 3-Apr-2025 18:17

GarryP:

I have already changed one Win-10 machine to Linux Mint and just use it for general browsing so it is fine for that. Tried to get one Win-10 app to run on it but failed.

As for the other one, since MS wants me to spend money on new hardware, I will probably just get an Apple Mac Mini instead and so goodbye MS.

How's Apple and macOS any different? If anything, they're worse.

mattwnz

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#3360291 3-Apr-2025 19:11

Ruphus:

GarryP:

I have already changed one Win-10 machine to Linux Mint and just use it for general browsing so it is fine for that. Tried to get one Win-10 app to run on it but failed.

As for the other one, since MS wants me to spend money on new hardware, I will probably just get an Apple Mac Mini instead and so goodbye MS.

How's Apple and macOS any different? If anything, they're worse.

How long can you securely keep using Mac OS for?

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#3360301 3-Apr-2025 20:07

Apple doesn't have a published support roadmap, but typically new MacOS releases support hardware from the previous five or six years, and then there are security updates for another two.

wuncando

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#3360981 5-Apr-2025 15:08

I cant stand windows 11 the whole UI is a mess

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#3360986 5-Apr-2025 15:41

The only 2 differences that I don't like in Windows 11 is the start button not being on the left, which is easy to change, and the right click menu being simplified, which also is easy enough to fix. Other than that its so similar to W10 i don't even notice the difference.

alisam

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#3361806 7-Apr-2025 21:12

My final reply (as I started the topic).

Even though I can still dual boot, Ubuntu starts by default (and the Grub Menu is not displayed unless I use the Shift key). I introduced my wife to Ubuntu and apart from a different looking Desktop, she has everything she needs and hasn't said a bad word.

It has taken a lot of time getting OneDrive up and running (finally paid for Insync), Synology NAS Shares mounted (tried NFS and finally CIFS), Shortcuts to files and folders in OneDrive and a Synology NAS, shortcuts to web pages.

Was it worth it? Yes. I do feel a sense of achievement. Some setup in Ubuntu has taken me hours to get up and running, whereas I could have done something similar in Windows in a few minutes.

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#3361813 7-Apr-2025 22:18

I miss the multi line taskbar the most, and the default of hiding tray icons so they have to be unhidden for every app and every itteration of that apps tray icon.

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