Setup server at office, Co-locate or find a better NZ Host?

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steveonz

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#25917 6-Sep-2008 12:30

Hello there,

Currently I have a VPS setup with Openhost.co.nz, but am starting to find that I am being ripped off for a service that does not perform. Constant freezes and I think a home host could be better.

Should I...

A, Co-locate?

B, Setup a server at our office?

C, Find another host?

The website has approx 100-200 users who access the PHP members area on a daily basis. With a further 1000 visitors to the site. 90% are from all round the globe (non NZ) 40% USA and the rest are from Europe/Middle east.

The site is about 1.5 gig and I expect it to double every 12 months.

I may move across another 10 sites which do not have anywhere the resource usage.

What I want to know is would it be easy to do myself and pay some geek to do it for me? :)

Should I be looking at a co-location setup? I can get one of these for NZ $100 but I am worried that if the server crashes I will have to trot along and to reboot. Maybe even a visualization setup would work?

I am based in Wellington and would perfer someone in wellington as I really dont want to go far.

Cheers,

Steven Morey.

sleemanj

1490 posts

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#162634 6-Sep-2008 13:42

Well, the obvious question here is with most of your client base outside NZ, why do you think it's a good idea to pay for an NZ VPS? Have a look at places like ServInt.

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boby55

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#162637 6-Sep-2008 14:24

I have a dedicated server in leaseweb.com never gone wrong and only down time ive had in the last 4 months is when I upgraded the hardrive. With most of your website viewers outside NZ a NZ colo wouldnt be that great for them.

steveonz

151 posts

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#162644 6-Sep-2008 15:10

Hey,

Thanks for your reply.

We have our resions for a NZ only host, for security and privacy resions we choose to host in NZ.
We once moved to the USA but 1/3 of our clients wanted to leave us because of this, so leaving NZ is a no go.

itxtme

2102 posts

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#162647 6-Sep-2008 15:29

steveonz: Hey,

Thanks for your reply.

We have our resions for a NZ only host, for security and privacy resions we choose to host in NZ.
We once moved to the USA but 1/3 of our clients wanted to leave us because of this, so leaving NZ is a no go.

Due to what reasons? The reason I ask is that there are much mroe afforadable options in more central areas. For example a dedicated managed server based in Australia or South East asia. The benefit of being managed means if the server goes down they will sort it out for you...

pc

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#162658 6-Sep-2008 16:46

hey

i've got a linux vps from openhost and it's been surprisingly good.

there were problems with the vps not configured with enough resources early on but openhost increased them and its been all good since.

have a look at /proc/user_beancounters and see if theres any failcnt's.

xen based vps's are supposadly better than virtuozzo at protecting your resources from other vps's on the same host, maybe move to a provider with xen based vps's.

pete

steveonz

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#162669 6-Sep-2008 18:29

I have no idea where my last reply went to..

Yeah I have looked at upgrading the VPS account at openhost.. but 16gig of storage for $159 just isnt realistic, I might as well get a Dedicated server.

The reason we only want to locate our server in NZ... Is part of company policy and I really dont want to get into why...

steveonz

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#162671 6-Sep-2008 18:39

Oh yeah, just had a look at user_beancounters, the file is empty, as in is 0kb....

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pc

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#162678 6-Sep-2008 20:26

steveonz: Oh yeah, just had a look at user_beancounters, the file is empty, as in is 0kb....

gotta be root to view it.

steveonz

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#162680 6-Sep-2008 20:47

I know, even as root its 0kb... Very odd...

pc

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#162696 6-Sep-2008 23:08

steveonz: I know, even as root its 0kb... Very odd...

you prob know but the size is 0bytes but if you cat it it'll give the stats. weird if it doesn't. mines looks like:

[pc@kaseus ~]$ ls -l /proc/user_beancounters
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Sep 6 23:05 /proc/user_beancounters
[pc@kaseus ~]$ sudo cat /proc/user_beancounters
Version: 2.5
       uid resource           held    maxheld    barrier      limit    failcnt
     10334: kmemsize        3572393    3614199 120795136 134217728          0
            lockedpages           0          0       4096       4096          0
            privvmpages       23556      23846     263620     292912          0
            shmpages           7810       7810     131072     131072          0
            dummy                 0          0          0          0          0
            numproc              33         33        400        400          0
            physpages         17009      17082          0 2147483647          0
            vmguarpages           0          0          0 2147483647          0
            oomguarpages      18755      18828 2147483647 2147483647          0
            numtcpsock            6          6        500        500          0
            numflock              4          5        189        210          0
            numpty                1          1         65         65          0
            numsiginfo            1          2        512        512          0
            tcpsndbuf          2236       8944     628736    1048576          0
            tcprcvbuf             0        700     628736    1048576          0
            othersockbuf      20124      20824    1584128    4063232          0
            dgramrcvbuf           0          0     262144     262144          0
            numothersock         16         18        500        500          0
            dcachesize        60078      64790    3885465    4317184          0
            numfile            1826       1842       4000       4000          0
            dummy                 0          0          0          0          0
            dummy                 0          0          0          0          0
            dummy                 0          0          0          0          0
            numiptent            46         46        600        600          0

robit

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#162726 7-Sep-2008 09:41

I have a VPS with an Auckland company named Sitehost www.sitehost.co.nz
They have excellent service. Ive only ever had one problem with the Xen based server which was due to a bug in Xen and caused the VPS to not restart as i had asked it to (ie, it didnt turn back on), but Sitehost have a system so you can manually switch on/off/reboot your VPS.
The prices are very reasonable for a NZ based VPS.

I highly recommend this company.

Robert
www.robertkern.com

itxtme

2102 posts

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#162741 7-Sep-2008 11:27

robit: I have a VPS with an Auckland company named Sitehost www.sitehost.co.nz
They have excellent service. Ive only ever had one problem with the Xen based server which was due to a bug in Xen and caused the VPS to not restart as i had asked it to (ie, it didnt turn back on), but Sitehost have a system so you can manually switch on/off/reboot your VPS.
The prices are very reasonable for a NZ based VPS.

I highly recommend this company.

Robert
www.robertkern.com

Very cool looking host!! Have a look at their bandwidth http://www.sitehost.co.nz/hosting/virtual-private-servers

Compare it to there German based servers! Such a massive reminder NZ sucks for bandwidth allowences!! I feel for server hosting in this country. There is no money in it when you compare it to off shore hosting!!

steveonz

151 posts

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#162772 7-Sep-2008 14:34

Thank you for that, I will have to look more into site host during the week, the only issue is see is their support fees....

rphenix

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#168687 2-Oct-2008 20:20

Late on the conversation but I thought I'd recommend a USA host. I use linode.com for a virtual server, have ran it there for several years now very rare to have a single problem. They regularly give extra disk space to existing customers without notification.

Have good automatied website to power cycle, resize hard drive partitions, manage your DNS (if you want to use their free dns services) on your VM or deploy a different distro (many too choose from).