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#303657 25-Feb-2023 22:32
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❓ Why is this system telling me that 40 random characters is a weak password?

 

 

Yes, this 12 character password is strong?

 

 

 





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  #3041997 25-Feb-2023 22:39
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“Cannot extend 40 characters”

Highly likely they’ve got limitations that can’t support longish passwords. In those cases I’ll do any number between 5-10 less than what their maximum requirements are as the password is still long and secure.




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  #3042001 25-Feb-2023 22:55
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That password doesn't exceed 40 characters. I can see no logical reason for it to have failed.

 

I remember back in the days of reusing the same password for everything, one of the Linux password libraries would always tell me that my password, a random string of letters and numbers, was based on a dictionary word. I'm sure no dictionary word starts with "fn7".


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  #3042003 25-Feb-2023 23:07
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Whilst it says "cannot exceed 40 chars" your password is 40 chars. I'd have deleted one character at a time till it accepted it.

 

As for it showing the 12 char password as secure vs your 40 one as not. I expect that is just poor UI and they're _really_ saying its invalid (outside of their requirements).




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  #3042005 25-Feb-2023 23:11
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Tried removing just 1 character & it still failed.

 

Sweet spot seems to be 13-25 characters with a result of "stronger"

 

 





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  #3042006 25-Feb-2023 23:12
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ANglEAUT:

 

Tried removing just 1 character & it still failed.

 

Sweet spot seems to be 13-25 characters with a result of "stronger"

 

 

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  #3042008 26-Feb-2023 00:06
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Just because the form field captures passwords, that does not, by any means, imply that the web designer had any knowledge or understanding of password security.




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  #3042021 26-Feb-2023 07:53
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My first guess would be it doesn’t like the ^ .... ; they’ve already said not to use <> and others so  I’m guessing their are a few other “special special” chars not acceptable


 
 
 
 

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  #3042022 26-Feb-2023 07:55
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They may have set a character limit on that field that's actually less than their password limit. Unless we're looking at your first and last name there?

I think Three Now had a similarly unintelligent password expectations, where the error messages had no relationship to what was being entered.

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  #3042147 26-Feb-2023 11:41
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Why would they have a 40 char limit?  Are they not hashing the user password so they never store the users actual password?


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  #3042154 26-Feb-2023 12:02
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I’d guess that one of the characters is acting as a delimiter and they’re ignoring everything before that character. It is probably the caret (^) which, although it is not a punctuation character, is often used as if it is punctuation.

 

 

 

P.S. I went back to look at the password and it would make sense that the caret is delimiting so your password fails because only 7 characters are evaluated.


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  #3042459 26-Feb-2023 22:52
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I have seen a few recently that cause issues with (in my case Apple's) automatic password generation.

 

 

 

Apple might suggest 45G7-N321-B7F4 for example, which seems pretty secure for most uses.

 

 

 

The site however might insist on Special Characters as well, which Apple won't insert.

 

 

 

Sometimes I have also seen instances where suggested passwords from say One Password have the "wrong" special characters in because for some reason something like & has been disallowed.

 

 






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  #3042520 27-Feb-2023 01:54
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ANglEAUT:

 

 

Translated:

 

 

This server supports SQL injection! See if you can get in and have some fun! Hint: use doubled-up escaped chars, URI encoding, ...

 

 

Edited to add: Oh gawd, it's Oracle Cloud isn't it? You'd think they of all sites would know about this stuff.

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