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BigRat
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  #925850 1-Nov-2013 16:30
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Alright, from what I can think off, I currently have most of my data on every individual computers and various devices (laptop, phone, etc) at the moment, which is not a wise thing to do because of the event when the hard drive fails due to heavy usage or it's a potential security risk. When I say "most" of the data, I do have a backup server that was intended to be used as a hobby machine which never eventuated. That machine is a Mac Mini G4 currently running OS X 10.5.8 (yeah that's the version limit it can go up to, because of the legacy PowerPC CPU), with about 148GB of usable HDD space. Disadvantage about it is that I cannot access it natively with a Windows machine without any additional software installed. I would've upgraded to Ubuntu but I just don't think the Mac Mini will cope with it.

Previously, I do used to have an external hard drive. 1TB WD MyBook; will never use them again, I'll tell you why but first I do want to tell you what I mainly use it for. My main usage of the external drive is just to store all the extra, but useful data off the PC and onto it, just in case if something does wrong with the PC itself (like partition/format errors, hard drive failure or malware attacks) and of course, to free up the disk space on the PC. But even so, the external drive was almost filled up, leaving just about 40GB out of 931GB of usable space. From then on, I had to find many ways to prevent loss of all of that data. However...

One day, when I again, bumped into the very loosed USB connector of the external HDD, as usual, the HDD lost connectivity to the PC. When I reconnected back in, Windows didn't detect any data on the drive. Sometimes this happens but after another disconnecting and reconnecting the drive it would show up a partition again but this time, it didn't. I thought to myself, oh well, I'll see if OS X (not the Mac Mini!) will detect it. Plugged it up to the other machine, yet again, it didn't see the partition as well. With hope losing, I went to the last effort of trying to recover data by booting to a live Ubuntu distro. And guess what? Nothing!

With almost all hope lost, I was forced to format the drive on Windows in order to recover anything valuable. Tried doing that, only got to recover nothing useful.

So after that experience, I thought to myself, never ever get an OEM external hard drive again but only for cold storage/backup. I decided that it would be better just to get/build a NAS from scratch. I like building computers and I thought making my own NAS would be a good idea. The downside is that it will be quite expensive than getting a NAS. I couldn't think of any type that will be suitable for my application.

When I realised about this giveaway, I thought to myself maybe this machine, with the manageable switch (as mine can't be configured, cheapo switches these days), could fit well into my own storage/backup server proposal. This would also mean that every single devices (including my phone, all of the computers and anything else) will be about to access to the server, after configuring it. About the switch, although my current 8-port, unmanaged one (TP-Link btw) is very handy as my setup expands as it takes off the working load away from the modem/router and it gives me more Ethernet ports, obviously, I do also want a switch than is managed, so that means I can play with the VLAN features and so on.

Although this server is a big step-up; in terms of power consumption and heat it'll produce, it still gives me the advantage to expand the storage capacity when I have to, the freedom to configuring the server and expanding other hardware on it such as memory and adding an expansion card (like a RAID controller). It will also be an advantage of simplifying the topology to a "star" model, as oppose to what I have at the moment; every computers and devices act as a client/server machines/devices, so not really an efficient setup as you can see.

With the current "server", the Mac Mini G4, becoming an aged, legacy machine, I do feel it's the time I should upgrading into a more reliable, configurable server. This would also mean I won't have to deal with cloud-storage due to my preference. :P



Screeb
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  #925976 1-Nov-2013 19:44
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The best thing for me (besides iLO which looks great) is probably the form factor. Managing the hardware will be much easier than with classic tower cases. The amount of time I've wasted awkwardly manoeuvring myself and various components around trying to fit them into / take them out of cases - or even inspecting them in-place - is unholy.

Garfield69
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#926006 1-Nov-2013 20:23
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My existing media server is struggling to cope with the workload and storage requirements that it's currently under. The single AMD athlon CPU and 2GB DDR memory barely manages to support VLC in playing a stutter free video at 576p, and the two SATA 1G HDDs with 1T capacity are at 95% full.

The HP Gen8 microserver with its dual core processor DDR3 memory should be more than capable of running my VLC playback at 1080p (at last!), and the 4 bay HDD 6G SATA will at last enable me to expand my storage needs.
And of course being able to finally ditch XP home for a more current OS (that will be supported past 2014) will be a nice bonus, especially from a security point of view.

Love the cube diemnsions of the HP Gen8, it will be nice to see off the existing tall tower case that takes up so much space in my media cabinet.

Finally, the 21 dBA fan on the HP gen8 will give blessed silence to the lounge again, after putting up with the noisy overworked fans in the existing tower (which are always running at full tilt because my existing CPU is constantly working at 100% when playing media).



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  #926015 1-Nov-2013 20:46
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This server appeals to me because at the moment I have a old computer acting as a server and it has a very old processor so it cant handle anything flash. A simple SIP call maxes out the CPU. It's easy to use and will do everything I need to do and more. Also it's HP and I love HP! :D




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  #926043 1-Nov-2013 22:26
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Love these little boxes, always fascinated me.

Would be a great personal development platform, extending my skill set in the system administration area, these boxes are well suited to low power home lab work, not all of us can have a nice set of rack mount servers in the other bedroom.

The large ram capacity is great for testing and playing with visualization products like vmware, xenserver and hyper-v, always good.

And a matching switch, icing on the cake :)

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  #926172 2-Nov-2013 09:40
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I love the form-factor and the design.  This would get plenty of use around my house!

DutchBoy
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  #926183 2-Nov-2013 10:33
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I like this unit Due to the small size and 4 disk raid make this a very useful home file server. The intel processor makes this more powerful than an arm-based nas. Future expandability is possible due to the high memory capacity.

 
 
 

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Lurch
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  #926242 2-Nov-2013 13:07
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Now that looks interesting, currently using an old Dell 745 as our server (not even a real server). Running good ol'2003.

The size looks bang on for our small setup, and probably very quiet too :-) This is the biggest feature that sticks out for me, closely followed by the proactive health monitoring and actual server hardware would suit us.


BruceHamilton
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  #926251 2-Nov-2013 13:31
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The easy setup, iLO, small size, quietness,and active health monitoring all impress me.

Currently, I have a Proliant ML110 with MS Server 2003 and a 8 port switch supporting 4 computers that control scientific instruments, network HP printers, and two HP office computers. The above features would make my small workplace quieter, provide the ability to securely access the network remotely, and the server could move into the office rather than reside in the laboratory.

eluSiveNZ
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  #926285 2-Nov-2013 15:59
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The inclusion of iLO4, the iLO Essentials license and small form factor really appeals for use in a small office. So many possibilities for its use, would love to have one!

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  #926344 2-Nov-2013 17:59
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This would be ideal for my home office/home lab and replace two older machines which currently run the following services across a few Hyper-V virtual machines: AD/DNS/DHCP, MDT & WDS, NPS (RADIUS auth for wireless devices & 802.1x wired authentication), File & Print, WSUS, PRTG & OpenVPN-AS.

The biggest draws for me are the low noise levels and energy efficiency. For 24/7 operation this is really important! The ILO4 remote console will allow me to place the server where I want, rather than where the KVM cable can reach! I'd be teaming the built-in NICs for thoroughput and redundancy. I'd also make use of the VLAN capabilities of the switch. The PCIe slot and USB3 ports will ensure that the unit does what I want for years to come by making more connectivity/storage options available if needed.

Unlike with HP's previous Micro Server iterations, having a socketed (user replaceable) CPU is a huge plus as well.

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  #926419 2-Nov-2013 23:24
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Like the small form factor and the fact that I can run Windows Server 2012 Essentials on it and backup all the machines on my home network on to this device and also use it as a media server.

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  #926423 3-Nov-2013 00:28
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It's form factor would make this an easy drop-in-anywhere as a server for small businesses that have previously shied away from such a purchase.  I'd love to get one of these to have some hands-on experience to then resell some of these units and push it with confidence that it's a great product




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  #926424 3-Nov-2013 00:37
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I like that fact that it has "Integrated Lights-Out" so I don't have to run an IP KVM to manage it, combined with auto-detection of port aggregation and PoE powered in the matching switch (so it can be powered by the same UPS as the server) and enough grunt to use for more than just a file server. Its also in a box that will fit nicely into the cupboard that has broadband in it, which should also stop the server filling up with dust. While I install server cabinets for work theres no chance for that at home, so standalone like this would be the way to go. And it looks quieter than my last Proliant too, so noone will know I've upgraded my corner office to a small empire. :)
EDIT: noticed that it supports RAID10, which is perfect for a 4-disk array so all good. Might look at putting VMs onto it instead of just windows. Now I just need a pretty receptionist to run everything else.




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  #926456 3-Nov-2013 08:12
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Two words: routerOS and NAS!
Been looking at a replacement for both.
KVN, Ubuntu driven NAS, RouterOS supported by two Gb ports
Sweet!

PS. I have actually come quite close to requesting this at PB the other day already!

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