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Eva888
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  #3177491 4-Jan-2024 10:11
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kingdragonfly: When I purchased my home it had a very fancy induction stovetop and a built-in oven.

I needed to consult both user manuals, just to figure out how to turn either on.

The induction stovetop is mostly featureless glass panel, with flaky and unobvious touch controls. It only communicate via a few scattered single LED's or 1 character codes, and beeping. When powered on, it has a padlock function enabled by default, and is unresponsive till you press the padlock "button" (usually takes two or three attempts) and get a beep.

One the other hand, the oven has hidden controls, and an LED text display. Every function requires an "press 'OK' after you insert the food" even when there's no need (no timer, no preheat). If you insert food, and don't hit OK. it'll just stay off, not heating.

And in some beautiful planned obsolesce, the tiny but critical "ok" chrome painted plastic button broke at almost exactly 5 years plus 1 day, and require you to pull out the oven to get to the back, and a $600 replacement motherboard that's no longer available. (I looked worldwide)

Anyone have a good used 1950's oven and range top?

 

 

 

I agree one only needs two steps to cook, temperature and mode ie bake, grill etc. Even a timer is not necessary these days with phones and Google home assistant to sort this by voice. That’s why I am happy to pay an electrician the price of a new stove to get my old oven totally refurbished than buy a new oven that will make all my trays redundant because todays ovens are so small inside. Mine has a clock a timer and variable modes that take a couple turns of the knob. It has a door that swings up rather than out so I can easily remove large trays and a built in temperature probe and rotisserie. F&P really did a great design and it’s 45 years old. Hoping my electrician will keep his word and do the job when he gets back from holidays.


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  #3177501 4-Jan-2024 10:27
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The problem is a lot of modern design is just marketing gimmickry to impress those who go 'ohhh' when they see pretty lights. It has nothing to do with the core functioning of appliances but is very good at breaking down and stopping everything else from working.

 

 

 

 





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  #3177504 4-Jan-2024 10:34
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I used to have similar thinking for the older style ovens but after upgrading I’d hate to go backwards.

Set oven temp. Plug in temp probe and set meat temperature. After a bit the oven will calculate the remaining cook time and turn itself off at the desired doneness.

Cleaning is a push of a button and a dust out. As a result of being pyrolytic and the extra insulation the fan functions are dead silent.

Not to mention all the different moisture retention or fan functions.




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  #3178072 5-Jan-2024 16:43
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Rikkitic:

 

The problem is a lot of modern design is just marketing gimmickry to impress those who go 'ohhh' when they see pretty lights. It has nothing to do with the core functioning of appliances but is very good at breaking down and stopping everything else from working.

 

I have the same opinion about the "auxiliaries interface" of modern cars. Had to replace my 14 year old Nissan Tiida recently (got written off after being rear-ended), which had very tactile controls with dials and levers for things like heating, air conditioning and ventilation direction, plus easily discernible buttons for pre-programmed radio stations. Have replaced it with a recent model Honda Jazz. Great car to drive and appreciate everything that Android auto and Bluetooth connectivity bring - but I cannot operate the air con/heating/air direction controls without looking at the screen. Ditto switching between Android Auto and good old regular FM radio stations. Definitely does not help road safety.


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  #3178073 5-Jan-2024 17:05
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Ants.





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  #3178095 5-Jan-2024 19:09
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Lias:

 

Ants.

 

 

Just wait until they get into your light switches!

 

 





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  #3178667 7-Jan-2024 12:51
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Companies that don't think of all options, and also don't add "none of the above" to the list.

 

In this case it's to gauge interest in an iPhone accessory, and they want to know what models are the most popular. The survey asks whether you have an iPhone 15, 14, 13, 12, or older. I have a current-generation SE. It's none of the numbered ones, but it's also not older than them. Their FAQ also doesn't bother to mention what to pick in this case.


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  #3178811 7-Jan-2024 18:00
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That triton hearing aid add , as a person who needs hearing aids to function, that add winds me up. I thought we had got away from having attractive woman selling products for no reason , why is she playing bowls ,  and the slogan at the end "Give it a go" sure make light of a serious problem for a lot of people.





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  #3178818 7-Jan-2024 19:08
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I find all current hearing aid ads annoying but you make a good point.

 

 





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  #3178836 7-Jan-2024 22:10
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Selecting a date to book a motel through google, then as you follow a couple of links to book now you end up making a booking for a different date somehow. Then wonder why you’re getting a no-show email.

Of course no refund.




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  #3178867 8-Jan-2024 07:59
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Rikkitic:

 

I find all current hearing aid ads annoying but you make a good point.

 

 

 

 

I find all current hearing aid ads annoying but you make a good point.





Did Eric Clapton really think she looked wonderful...or was it after the 15th outfit she tried on and he just wanted to get to the party and get a drink?


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  #3178872 8-Jan-2024 08:34
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vexxxboy:

 

That triton hearing aid add , as a person who needs hearing aids to function, that add winds me up. I thought we had got away from having attractive woman selling products for no reason , why is she playing bowls ,  and the slogan at the end "Give it a go" sure make light of a serious problem for a lot of people.

 

 

 

 

Don’t know if it changes your perspective, but Lily McManus, the woman in the Triton advert, does actually have significant hearing loss and needs hearing aids. So I guess that’s a reason.





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  #3178886 8-Jan-2024 09:07
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Dingbatt:

 

vexxxboy:

 

That triton hearing aid add , as a person who needs hearing aids to function, that add winds me up. I thought we had got away from having attractive woman selling products for no reason , why is she playing bowls ,  and the slogan at the end "Give it a go" sure make light of a serious problem for a lot of people.

 

 

 

 

Don’t know if it changes your perspective, but Lily McManus, the woman in the Triton advert, does actually have significant hearing loss and needs hearing aids. So I guess that’s a reason.

 

 

not really because they are still pushing her looks and not her hearing problems





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  #3178888 8-Jan-2024 09:15
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vexxxboy:

 

not really because they are still pushing her looks and not her hearing problems

 

 

Well, if it makes you fell better, I don't find her particularly attractive.


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Tried to buy a Bullseye ticket via the lotto app yesterday as saw it was $400K must be won and the app wouldn't accept my card. Made sure the card number was correct (in fact I re-added it and got a pending $1 charge from Lotto which verified it) and there were sufficient funds in the account. Wife had no issue (different bank) so just used her card in the end.

 

Sent lotto an email to ask what the issue with my card was, and also asked on the live chat. Live chat told me there was an ongoing issue with Visa and ASB since early December and a solution was yet to be provided. I had no issue buying a ticket on 30 December so the early December comment didn't seem right - I don't get it often, just when there's a big draw or extra prizes on holidays etc. Got an email reply this morning that it's because the card is within 2 months of expiry (expires in February). Apparently when you register a card with them it creates a "token" as some sort of security measure and the token expires and can't be reactivated when the card is within 2 months of expiry. Seems odd to decline cards that are still active and can be used anywhere else but got to the bottom of it in the end.


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