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#3222946 25-Apr-2024 21:08

kingdragonfly: Christian school's pastor cancels Autism Awareness Week, calling it "demonic"

There is no hate quite like christian love.

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#3222953 25-Apr-2024 22:13

kingdragonfly: Christian school's pastor cancels Autism Awareness Week, calling it "demonic"

I didn't press the button. Looks like he's broadcasting from a dungeon.

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#3223002 26-Apr-2024 10:00

Robosen Megatron is the Best Evil Robot You Can Buy

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#3223123 26-Apr-2024 17:19

Anyone involved in organising Wellington public transport is just un-****ing_believable.

https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/350257880/no-trains-big-phoenix-game

Due to KiwiRail scheduled maintenance.

This is the biggest Phoenix game of the season and a crowd of 20,000 is expected, how is that not a 'large event'.

(I can't be bothered to look up the number but I would hazard a guess that Phoenix crowds have been the same size, if not bigger, than the Hurricanes this year.)

Did Eric Clapton really think she looked wonderful...or was it after the 15th outfit she tried on and he just wanted to get to the party and get a drink?

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#3223125 26-Apr-2024 17:34

Given the Phoenix rarely draw above 10000 it would have been pretty reasonable to think this was the least bad option.

These types of shutdowns are generally organised months in advance, it’s not easy to adapt them to a sports team being in unusually good form.

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#3223581 28-Apr-2024 07:15

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350243196/rashes-and-lesions-your-mattress-making-you-sick

Fibreglass in your mattress cover? How does that even happen where such a product is allowed

You're not on Atlantis anymore, Duncan Idaho.

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#3223584 28-Apr-2024 07:51

Unexpectedly discussed in the non-profit national USA poison control center.

The two manufacturers Zinus and Graco have only recently stop using fiberglass.

Disturbingly sounds like Graco was using fiberglass in toddler mattresses.

National Capitol Control Center: Why Do Mattresses Contain Fiberglass?

Why do mattresses need to be fire resistant?

More than 25% of all fires occur in home environments, and at least 2,500 deaths and 11,000 injuries related to home fires occur each year. The two most common items implicated in home fire deaths are upholstered furniture and mattresses/bedding.

Because of this, the United States Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) established the first fire safety standards for mattresses in the early 1970’s.

While the initial CPSC standards were aimed at reducing the number of cigarette-related mattress fires, the most recent standard focuses on limiting the rate and extent of mattress fire spread.

Many mattress and bedding manufacturers use flame-retardant chemicals to maintain compliance with the new CPSC standard.
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Which mattresses contain fiberglass?

To help mattress manufacturers meet fire-resistant standards, fiberglass may be present within mattress covers or foam. While some mattresses are certified as being free of heavy metals and hazardous flame-retardant chemicals, these guarantees apply to the mattress foam only, and chemicals may still be present in mattress covers.

When individuals unzip or open mattress covers, unintentional exposures to fiberglass can occur. In one study, fiberglass was detected in the covers of mattresses manufactured by Zinus and Graco that were certified as having chemical-free foam.

Since fiberglass is present in many mattresses, it can be difficult to tell whether a specific mattress contains fiberglass in the foam or cover. The mattress label, which lists the components of the mattress, may or may not contain the terms “fiberglass”, “glass fiber”, or “glass wool” if fiberglass is present within the mattress or its cover.

Is fiberglass dangerous?

Fiberglass can be irritating to the eyes, skin, and lungs. Rashes, itching, and blisters can occur when fiberglass comes into contact with human skin, even for short periods of time.

Long-term exposure to fiberglass is associated with lung disease, including pulmonary fibrosis.

Short-term inhalational exposure to fiberglass may cause lung inflammation and bronchiolitis. Fiberglass fibers can also cause visual changes, bleeding, and scarring if they become embedded within the eye.

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#3223585 28-Apr-2024 08:17

floydbloke:

Anyone involved in organising Wellington public transport is just un-****ing_believable.

Reminds me of Auckland Transport suggesting that people trying to get to Mt Smart for a concert should just drive.

My referral links: BigPipe | Mercury

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#3223604 28-Apr-2024 11:39

kingdragonfly:

National Capitol Control Center: Why Do Mattresses Contain Fiberglass?

Why do mattresses need to be fire resistant?

More than 25% of all fires occur in home environments, and at least 2,500 deaths and 11,000 injuries related to home fires occur each year. The two most common items implicated in home fire deaths are upholstered furniture and mattresses/bedding.

Because of this, the United States Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) established the first fire safety standards for mattresses in the early 1970’s.

While the initial CPSC standards were aimed at reducing the number of cigarette-related mattress fires, the most recent standard focuses on limiting the rate and extent of mattress fire spread.

Many mattress and bedding manufacturers use flame-retardant chemicals to maintain compliance with the new CPSC standard.
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there is some interesting history behind all that and why its all BS. the simple thing is by the time a mattress or furniture catches alight your already out of there or dead. its more about 1970's politics and perceived danger that hasn't been corrected since.

they also made children's clothing to be fire resistant. there is a couple of scientist who tested the effects of the fire retardant and found the kids had fire retardant in their urine. people absorb the fire retardant into their bodies. long story short, because of that they changed the fire retardant. has anyone tested the new fire retardant? no. hence there is many people trying to get around the laws that require fire retardant in those products. which is why they made those fire resistant covers. of course using fiberglass is just dumb.

so basically a dumb law that should never have existed in the first place, has caused more harm to people than it has ever prevented.

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#3223697 28-Apr-2024 14:32

For some reason fiberglass in mattresses seems to coincide with cheap mattresses

I don't have children. It was a big problem in Victorian days, when loose fitting clothes plus open flames everywhere meant lots of children's deaths.

Of course in the 1970's people dying because they fell asleep while smoking and lighting their sofa / bed on fire was common.

New Zealand does have regulatory flammability requirements for children’s sleepwear, and must be labeled and tested

NZ Commerce Commision: Children's nightwear
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Children's nightwear having a higher fire risk must be marked with the red fire hazard information label. These are garments which do not comply with categories 1, 2 and 3 of the product safety standard but do fall within the scope of category 4.

White or red labels are the only coloured labels that comply with the standard.

An orange label, which was required for some children's nightwear under the previous product safety standard, must no longer be on children's nightwear. This is important to remember especially if you are supplying old stock or second-hand children's nightwear.
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Stuff: Crackerjack charged with selling children's pyjamas without fire warning labels

New Zealand Legislation: Product Safety Standards (Children's Nightwear and Limited Daywear Having Reduced Fire Hazard) Regulations 2016

Youtube Why Did These Strange 1950s Inventions Kill So Many People? jump to 17:01

Discusses nylon sleepwear for children (and poly-urethane cushions in sofas)

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#3223721 28-Apr-2024 15:55

kingdragonfly: For some reason fiberglass in mattresses seems to coincide with cheap mattresses

I don't have children. It was a big problem in Victorian days, when loose fitting clothes plus open flames everywhere meant lots of children's deaths.

Of course in the 1970's people dying because they fell asleep while smoking and lighting their sofa / bed on fire was common.

the real issue was not understanding what they where wearing. victorian days, thats all natural fibers. you just had to keep away from fire and sparks, which would have been normal. the bigger hazard was the early coal gas lamps.

the problem after the 50's was a change in materials without understanding that plastic burns, and worse it melts and sticks. wearing something more flammable and then smoking or being close to flames is an accident waiting to happen. i wonder how many of those who died in bed/sofa actually died from other things (heart attack) and the fire was secondary. they are both common places to die in and of course high rates of smoking. notice the bit in the vid about the guy who did fall asleep and set the sofa on fire and he got off the sofa. i guess fire tends to wake you up pretty fast, its usually the smoke that kills you.

i think the bigger culprit is the changes in tech and not understanding the risks as they are unseen. a fireplace you can see burning so you keep away. and electric heater not so much, especially when early ones didn't have guards. then the issue of houses not really designed for egress. hence today the push on fire alarms and exits.

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#3223722 28-Apr-2024 16:03

kingdragonfly:

Of course in the 1970's people dying because they fell asleep while smoking and lighting their sofa / bed on fire was common.

the bigger issue to me is ignition sources. if there is no ignition source then there is no fire risk.

someone died not long back, traced it back to a worn electric blanket. they are meant to be checked regularly (something i did a lot of back in the day).

today, so many cheap ebay electric toys and devices that are dodgy as. or the classic heater that gets covered by a blanket. or some half burnt out multi board people keep using. if there is no ignition sources then what kids wear makes no difference.

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#3223723 28-Apr-2024 16:09

Electric heaters when operating normally can provide an ignition source. This is why the saying 'stay a meter from the heater' exists. The radiant heat is enough to provide ignition on its own, even without contact.

The issue with flammable childrens' clothes is not really if the kid gets caught in a house fire. It's the clothing being the first thing to catch fire, because the kid is huddled up next to a heater.

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#3223725 28-Apr-2024 16:32

SomeoneSomewhere:

Electric heaters when operating normally can provide an ignition source. This is why the saying 'stay a meter from the heater' exists. The radiant heat is enough to provide ignition on its own, even without contact.

The issue with flammable childrens' clothes is not really if the kid gets caught in a house fire. It's the clothing being the first thing to catch fire, because the kid is huddled up next to a heater.

yes/no. there is limits on max temp output to stop that happening. plus they tend to melt before they catch fire. also it means the person is using the wrong type of heater. for kids rooms use an oil heater, as thats low temp. then there is behavior, "don't sit in front of the fire". you learn as kids it hurts when sparks burn a hole in your clothes.

not to mention the whole, why are you using resistive heaters in the first place. most places where heated by wood/coal/oil burners. electric heaters never had enough output to heat rooms, and still don't. a change in tech with little understanding, something thats still a problem to day. (many people still can't understand how thermostats work)

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#3223727 28-Apr-2024 16:47

Similar to electric oven temperature but for some reason some people throw that knowledge out the window when operating an oil fin heater or similar. I'm not sure why. It's a mystery. Maybe if dials were graded in degrees those people would make the connection.

Edit: Maybe related to the old bar heaters with the high/low choice and they think the stat is a continuously variable control? beats me..

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