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#1476127 21-Jan-2016 13:29

NZ media's definition of international news stories tends to be scanning stories around the world to see any link to NZ. Anything that has some link to NZ, such as a NZer appearing on Graham Norton, is fair game for the news.

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#1476134 21-Jan-2016 13:48

The only reason I watch TV news if it is a really major event which is visually interesting. Otherwise I'm happy to pick the story up from the net.

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#1476136 21-Jan-2016 13:53

floydbloke: One of Google's definitions states a hub as:

"the effective centre of an activity, region, or network"

I guess all news now revolves around TV3.

Oh, News Hub! I thought it was New Shub - a reality show about renovating bathrooms with showers you can take a bath in?

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#1476145 21-Jan-2016 14:03

andrew027:

floydbloke: One of Google's definitions states a hub as:

"the effective centre of an activity, region, or network"

I guess all news now revolves around TV3.

Oh, News Hub! I thought it was New Shub - a reality show about renovating bathrooms with showers you can take a bath in?

They will take a bath in the ratings and another show and some presenters will be down the drain and the news soap opera will continue.

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#1476150 21-Jan-2016 14:12

"NewsHub will be a multi-platform TV, radio and digital news service" - so, it's Paul Henry's show, but in the evening, and without Paul Henry?

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#1476151 21-Jan-2016 14:13

I don't get the need for news to be more "social", I don't want that at all.

I like my news factual, well investigated and presented without tears (Yes YOU Hillary Barry and Overly compassionate John Campbell).

I would respect the likes of the Campbell Live more (Yes I know it's gone) if they weren't just a bully with a big stick who took every consumer sob story, ignored the "facts" and just MADE "big bad company" wear whatever outcome was deemed appropriate.

If the consumer is wrong, then Campbell should have had the guys to say so and support the company occasionally as well (Assuming they were in the right).

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#1476320 21-Jan-2016 18:58

robjg63:

Yes most overseas countries have a 30 minute news program - which includes National/International and Sport.

Usually around 50% Local&National/40% International and 10% sports - 60 seconds for the weather.

Our weather slot goes on so long I often miss it because I glaze over.....

We also have approximately 30 minute news shows, on both TVNZ and TV3 - although the mix here is more 10% local, 10% international, 10% weather, 30% sport and 40% human interest "fluff". The trouble is, because of all the ads, promos and soft promos, out 30 minute news shows take 60 minutes to broadcast.

Maybe TV3 will implement a radical change of direction, which will be a complete break with the current format and clearly differentiate them from TVNZ as well. Something like building the show around actual news?

But on second thoughts, nah, that won't happen. Wait a minute. Oh my gosh. Coming now, breaking news, a live cross to our reporter Invercargill where Tibby the Kitten is stuck in a drain, then back to our panel for their reaction to the story, hard news sponsored by Whiskas Kitty Litter.....

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#1476321 21-Jan-2016 19:02

JimmyH:

We also have approximately 30 minute news shows, on both TVNZ and TV3 - although the mix here is more 10% local, 10% international, 10% weather, 30% sport and 40% human interest

The other big thing at least on TVNZ news, is there is very little business news these days. They used to go through the sharemarket and then have the business news, but that appears to have disappeared, and replaced with celebrity stuff and youtube vids. TV3 did still have some, done by ASB staff, but it was quite brief. Wonder if it is the signs of a dumbing down of the audience, who don't care about business, and are all about consuming. I think the only real proper news these days is Radio NZ, and this is speaking as a 30 something year old, which is probably not their main demo.

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#1476328 21-Jan-2016 19:13

Mediaworks staff have been moving into their shared newsroom over the last few weeks, just like NZME also did recently. I think it makes a lot of sense to create efficiencies through pooling resources between TV3 and Radio Live, but it remains to be seen whether that efficiency will lead to a better quality product or just a cost saving to Mediaworks.

Newshub is apparently based around the idea that everyone is already familiar with the day's news by the time they sit down on the couch at 6pm, so the new format is intended to recap on the news in a way that doesn't bore people to tears. Whether that means they will go in depth, or just provide a lightweight bulletin like Newsworthy, I really don't know.

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#1476337 21-Jan-2016 19:28

I get frustrated when they cut and paste something from America which has no implications for nz but will fill in 5minutes. Ie US political stories about who us trying to get presidential nomination ie Trump/Clinton what ever. Not like we are going to change or votes.

It also bothers me how little actual information is passed to us. One day I turned on the text captions while playing with tv and I was really struck by how few points where made compared with reading an article on line or newspapers.

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#1476344 21-Jan-2016 19:39

Just please please please keep Henry away from the new 6pm hub!

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#1476366 21-Jan-2016 19:53

networkn:

I don't get the need for news to be more "social", I don't want that at all.

I like my news factual, well investigated and presented without tears (Yes YOU Hillary Barry and Overly compassionate John Campbell).

I would respect the likes of the Campbell Live more (Yes I know it's gone) if they weren't just a bully with a big stick who took every consumer sob story, ignored the "facts" and just MADE "big bad company" wear whatever outcome was deemed appropriate.

If the consumer is wrong, then Campbell should have had the guys to say so and support the company occasionally as well (Assuming they were in the right).

I hate the people give Hillary grief over crying. I remember watching that footage, straight after a very touching story about her long time co worker John and his leaving, she then was expected to read news. I know I am human, and I know that I wouldn't do any better in that situation. The floor director should have gone to Mike faster than waiting for Hillary to need to say in her tears but was a moving moment in my eyes. She was acting in a very human way. Humans cry. And they may present the news 5 nights a week, but at the end of the day things push us back to 'human' instead of just work sometimes. I know that very well.

John Campbell being over compassionate? Um he gave a crap about things that otherwise would go quiet. He got results for things he cared about. He wasn't always perfect but heck, who is.

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#1476407 21-Jan-2016 20:30

alasta:

Mediaworks staff have been moving into their shared newsroom over the last few weeks, just like NZME also did recently. I think it makes a lot of sense to create efficiencies through pooling resources between TV3 and Radio Live, but it remains to be seen whether that efficiency will lead to a better quality product or just a cost saving to Mediaworks.

Newshub is apparently based around the idea that everyone is already familiar with the day's news by the time they sit down on the couch at 6pm, so the new format is intended to recap on the news in a way that doesn't bore people to tears. Whether that means they will go in depth, or just provide a lightweight bulletin like Newsworthy, I really don't know.

Having everyone on the same floor in the same building will always be more effective. Look at voda's grand plan to move to smales farm. all about being together and working effectively.

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#1476516 22-Jan-2016 08:22

networkn: I don't get the need for news to be more "social", I don't want that at all.

I'm guessing that means we can have a three minute story based on the latest Max Key instagram post or Lorde tweet.

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#1476525 22-Jan-2016 08:51

Another private equity company dressing up a business for sale, sound familiar?

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