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CokemonZ
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  #2484446 15-May-2020 13:52
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Just came back from bunnings - no record keeping (as expected).

 

Pretty busy though - I was surprised, then realized I was one of the people going there to get some stuff I'd needed over the past 8 weeks - same as everyone else.




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  #2484447 15-May-2020 13:54
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NPCtom: Honestly we need an NFC solution implemented as soon as possible. Nearly every phone supports it and it's as simple as holding your device near an NFC terminal.

 

NFC is a terrible idea.

 

Apple won't allow interfacing into their NFC chipset unless you pay them a LOT of money, and it is an even worse idea than BlueTooth which wasn't the best idea. This is why there isn't a Snapper app for iOS.

 

QR is the only way to go IMHO, and I believe it should be a tablet at each venue that generate a random QR per person so that the location can track in reverse.


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  #2484460 15-May-2020 14:18
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outdoorsnz:

 

From what I've seen in the news, there are a bunch of companies pushing apps to stores etc, which to work best, requires the customer to install given app. Having to goto a URL link sounds clunky!

 

It is meant to be anonymised data, but I bet you with the rush, there will be data breaches.

 

 

There's no way I'm going to install dozens of random apps just to visit a store. I'd be happy with one national app that everybody used, but not lots of different ones.

 

The company I work for has announced how they will handle contact tracing when we return to office life. They'll be using something called EVA Check-in.




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  #2485837 18-May-2020 19:48
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A little further help please -

 

Wgton City Library is using QR codes with the Rippl app … instructions say to scan the QR on way in, then click Exit in the app on way out. So far so good, one's visitation is now recorded on phone.

 

Apparently if their is a covid concern, the health authorities will then send the phone owner some sort of alert.

 

Question is, how do the authorities know my TXT/number simply from me essentially taking a photo? …. unless the action of pressing Exit in the app triggers some sort of outgoing information?

 

 


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  #2485848 18-May-2020 20:18
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Rickles:

 

A little further help please -

 

Wgton City Library is using QR codes with the Rippl app …

 

Question is, how do the authorities know my TXT/number simply from me essentially taking a photo? …. unless the action of pressing Exit in the app triggers some sort of outgoing information?

 

 

They don't , the developer can apparently search the device logs looks for a data time match with the QR of the business that has been advised of COVID contact, then you get an alert via the app

 

From Rippl

 

https://www.paperkite.co.nz/rippl/

 

"Once Health Services receive a notice that a venue has a possible infection, they will contact the venue/business and advise them of their next steps – which could be to close their doors and clean for example. The business will tell them they use Rippl and then Health Services will contact PaperKite. PaperKite searches for an ID match of the venue searching all customer apps (with a date and time range). This broadcast is checking each log for whether that device was checked-in at that venue. If there is a match, an alert is sent via the app to the customer, then it’s up to the customer to get in touch with Health Services."

 

 


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  #2485995 18-May-2020 23:06
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@wellygarry …. I read that earlier but still don't get it.

 

I understand that if a covid infection (or anything really) is discovered/possibly transmitted at, say the Library, then yes the ID of that location is a known factor.

 

But, apart from generalised advertising, how would/could the tracing system identify me?   Surely I'd have to literally volunteer that?


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  #2486058 19-May-2020 08:32
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Just tested my Galaxy S10e native camera app and it has automatic QR functionality which I didn't know, so thanks for the heads up.

 

I had installed a third part QR reader which I have now uninstalled.


 
 
 

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  #2486071 19-May-2020 08:45
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I refuse to fill in these contact tracing registers, install apps or use QR codes on principle. The legislation is very clear that retail stores do not have to collect this information.

 

Some day soon one of these rush job apps / registers are going to get hacked and suddenly everyone is being spammed or getting their identities stolen.

 

BarTender:

 

NFC is a terrible idea.

 

Apple won't allow interfacing into their NFC chipset unless you pay them a LOT of money [..]

 

 

Source?


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