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Aaroona
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  #311888 27-Mar-2010 16:30
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Bung?

http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/settlementpack/Government/TheNZPolice/DealingWithThePolice.htm



Good link. Most of that information is common sense though, so it wasn't really anything new to me, might be useless to others though!

Cheers



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#311891 27-Mar-2010 16:34
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While it's amusing to compare the poster to a previous member here, please remember personal attacks are against the FUG...

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  #311894 27-Mar-2010 16:40
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The problem with cws82us's (or is just ') ...is his (or hers) language and grammer is quite bad. This may be because of their age (probably not) or most like due to their first language not being english. I don't think anyone would have "made fun" or mocked him/her if they asked all their questions in better english.



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  #312225 28-Mar-2010 22:09
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A particular favourite of mine is the old "So I see you're carrying a backback there. I'll just have a quick look, eh?" "" i.e. consent to search.

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  #312252 28-Mar-2010 23:21
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Basically you have to tell the police your details, they cannot search you or your property without your consent (or under the misuse of drug acts ect and then they have to tell you). It is always best never to say anything more to police, as they will never help you out. If you do get arrested, dont fight with police, this is not the time to plead your innocence they dont care, save it for court.

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  #312254 28-Mar-2010 23:26
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patznz: It is always best never to say anything more to police, as they will never help you out.


This is assuming you're guilty of course.

If you have nothing to hide, I don't see what saying nothing does, other than make you look guilty, if you are innocent.


Personally, I would co-operate and answer any questions, if I had nothing to hide.

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  #312255 28-Mar-2010 23:32
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Im doing law atm at auckland uni, I cant really be bothered going into all the reasons, not speaking to the police has been the advice of my law lecturers throughout. Basically you can self incriminate very easily if you story doesn't match others who may be lying to protect guilty parties. 

Watch this it all basically applies to New Zealand law http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik


 
 
 

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  #312256 28-Mar-2010 23:44
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Just thought I would add something a lawyer I know told me:
When the Police ask if you consent to a search always say no. There is no upside and a whole lot of downsides.

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  #312259 29-Mar-2010 00:39
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And actually say "No". Silence equates to consent.

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  #312297 29-Mar-2010 09:53
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patznz:Watch this it all basically applies to New Zealand law http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik 


Long video, but very worth watching (there are 2 parts) - interesting how a police statement can be of no help to your defense.

The lecturer in that video does talk very very fast!

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  #312304 29-Mar-2010 10:07
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Aaroona:
patznz: It is always best never to say anything more to police, as they will never help you out.


This is assuming you're guilty of course.

If you have nothing to hide, I don't see what saying nothing does, other than make you look guilty, if you are innocent.


Personally, I would co-operate and answer any questions, if I had nothing to hide.


Such simplistic views.. Case in point; young gentleman was attacked in the street here. Was questioned in the street w/o a lawyer. was asked if he wanted to press charges, he said no, Police asked for statement, contained within, was an admission of fighting in public (Q: Was there tussle after he pushed you? A: Yes.)... Promptly arrested for disorderly behavior..

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  #312353 29-Mar-2010 11:49
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"If the Police suspect you have been driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs...
The Police will ask you to undergo a compulsory roadside alcohol breath test. If this test is positive, then you are required to accompany the Police to a testing station for the purposes of giving an evidential breath test, blood test or both."

 

So the police require reasonable suspicion to request a breath test?

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  #312355 29-Mar-2010 11:52
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adam77: So the police require reasonable suspicion to request a breath test?


They do??

A check point can be any place anytime

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  #312357 29-Mar-2010 11:55
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It's just that the quote from the immigration web site would suggest otherwise??

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  #312359 29-Mar-2010 11:58
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Aaroona:
patznz: It is always best never to say anything more to police, as they will never help you out.


This is assuming you're guilty of course.

If you have nothing to hide, I don't see what saying nothing does, other than make you look guilty, if you are innocent.


Personally, I would co-operate and answer any questions, if I had nothing to hide.


Watch the videos then...





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