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#3302938 29-Oct-2024 22:26

Seat belts are in fact dangerous. As has been pointed out by others, the safer drivers feel, the more risks they take. If you really want to prevent road deaths, there should be a requirement that a bayonet pointing into the chest of the driver should be mounted on every steering wheel. Then you would see really safe driving!

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#3302941 29-Oct-2024 22:28

Rikkitic: Seat belts are in fact dangerous. As has been pointed out by others, the safer drivers feel, the more risks they take. If you really want to prevent road deaths, there should be a requirement that a bayonet pointing into the chest of the driver should be mounted on every steering wheel. Then you would see really safe driving!

Yup, because all the unsafe drivers would have died due to being bayonetted.

Also just for the record it should be a Mosin-Nagant bayonet, which can be mounted on the boot of the car in front and still reach the driver.

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#3303093 30-Oct-2024 11:42

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/give-white-children-more-money-in-monopoly-to-teach-racism-and-privilege-uk-councils-tell-parents/XSDO4WM3UZBDHO22WUBKSXE4VI/

Not quite sure this will teach the lesson they are intending... Surely this is satire.

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#3303132 30-Oct-2024 12:21

It looks like "baa baa black sheep" is a third rail topic, probably an "whataboutism" more often raised from conservatives trying to cause offense.

It may be because it has the words "black" and "master" in the stanza. When taken out of context it sounds racist.

However at last some farmers think black wool is more valuable.

"Black wool was prized, by Cumberland farmers at least, because hard-wearing black suits could be made from it
without the necessity of dyeing." New Scientist, Ariadne, 13 March 1986, p. 80.

My understanding is a white farm sheep can give birth to a black sheep, due to genetics. Sheep can carry recessive genes for different colors, and if both parents carry the gene for black wool, there's a chance their offspring will be black, even if the parents themselves are white.

Honestly I don't have any children (or sheep), so I'm not exactly bothered if the nursery rhyme disappears completely like "The Story of Little Black Sambo" by Helen Bannerman.

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#3303152 30-Oct-2024 12:28

cddt:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/give-white-children-more-money-in-monopoly-to-teach-racism-and-privilege-uk-councils-tell-parents/XSDO4WM3UZBDHO22WUBKSXE4VI/

Not quite sure this will teach the lesson they are intending... Surely this is satire.

It's obviously satire. How could your child take their rightful place in society if you teach them nonsense about justice instead of how to build a property portfolio?

Most of the posters in this thread are just like chimpanzees on MDMA, full of feelings of bonhomie, joy, and optimism. Fred99 8/4/21

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#3303200 30-Oct-2024 14:40

cddt: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/give-white-children-more-money-in-monopoly-to-teach-racism-and-privilege-uk-councils-tell-parents/XSDO4WM3UZBDHO22WUBKSXE4VI/

Not quite sure this will teach the lesson they are intending... Surely this is satire.

Poe's Law.

The Telegraph isn't Murdoch media so they haven't just made the whole thing up like they were doing in the 1990s with their "loony left councils" stories, but there's still precious little to support this online. I didn't want to spend too much time on it but Google turned up links to several-years-old posts from random web sites that didn't contain the publication in question, so it's either a manufactroversy or a tempest in a teacup.

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#3303292 30-Oct-2024 16:32

kingdragonfly: It looks like "baa baa black sheep" is a third rail topic, probably an "whataboutism" more often raised from conservatives trying to cause offense.

It may be because it has the words "black" and "master" in the stanza. When taken out of context it sounds racist.

However at last some farmers think black wool is more valuable.

"Black wool was prized, by Cumberland farmers at least, because hard-wearing black suits could be made from it
without the necessity of dyeing." New Scientist, Ariadne, 13 March 1986, p. 80.

My understanding is a white farm sheep can give birth to a black sheep, due to genetics. Sheep can carry recessive genes for different colors, and if both parents carry the gene for black wool, there's a chance their offspring will be black, even if the parents themselves are white.

Honestly I don't have any children (or sheep), so I'm not exactly bothered if the nursery rhyme disappears completely like "The Story of Little Black Sambo" by Helen Bannerman.

From 2010 but still all too relevant: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/columnists/4449295/First-against-the-wall-Political-correctness-gone-mad-parrots

Like any good PR man, the kingpins of the "PC gone mad" tribe have subtly built this campaign against a concept that never existed on a fine tissue of outrageous lies, published in in-house journals like Britain's Daily Mail newspaper. The tales of the European Union insisting all bananas must be straight. Schoolteachers changing the lyrics of "Baa Baa Black Sheep" to "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep", and the blackboard becoming the chalkboard. Travellers beheading ducks and eating them.

They're all rubbish, but 1984 has finally come to pass: we're all stupid enough to believe them.

With this basic fabric established, any slight societal change that they don't like is hooted down with cries of "It's PC gone mad". A quick search this past week discovered the following things that the parrots have lately declaimed in such a fashion: the use of macrons in Maori place names (from a Kapiti Coast councillor), defending Paul Henry's moronic comments on TVNZ (various listeners) and a racist British MP being sacked.

"I regret to say that we of the F.B.I. are powerless to act in cases of oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate commerce." — J. Edgar Hoover

"Create a society that values material things above all else. Strip it of industry. Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and for corporations. Prop up failed financial institutions with public money. Ask for more tax, while vastly reducing public services. Put adverts everywhere, regardless of people's ability to afford the things they advertise. Allow the cost of food and housing to eclipse people's ability to pay for them. Light blue touch paper." — Andrew Maxwell

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#3303452 30-Oct-2024 23:13

SomeoneSomewhere:

As I said, institutions have begun to accept that they need to stop protecting their own. It's not foolproof, there are exceptions, but things have definitely changed and are continuing to change.

Churches, on the other hand, still generate headlines like this: Catholic Church planned to house teen-sexting priest on primary school grounds.

There's a case for the Charities Commission to revoke non-profit status for the likes of the Destiny Church & BestStart.

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#3303453 30-Oct-2024 23:23

deepred: There's a case for the Charities Commission to revoke non-profit status for the likes of the Destiny Church & BestStart.

Governments have been very wary of getting dragged into debates over what is and isn't a valid religion, see for example cases like the Universal Life Church where anyone can become an ordained minister. There was even a "church" set up specifically to point out the scam that is the tax-exempt status of some "churches"... and it was granted tax-exempt status.

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#3303493 31-Oct-2024 08:23

deepred: Catholic Church planned to house teen-sexting priest on primary school grounds.

"The Auckland Catholic diocese has admitted it didn’t tell the board or principal of the Good Shepherd primary school in Balmoral, central Auckland, of its plans. The Ministry of Education could not alert them as Raass had pre-trial name suppression.

The church says that while Raass used the presbytery as a 'contact address' and on his bail forms, he never actually stayed there – but doesn’t know where he did stay. He has since left the priesthood and last year was living in Avondale in a relationship with a woman with whom he has reportedly had children."

I think the article used "presbytery" incorrectly, or the Catholic diocese is just that inept. Presbytery is governing body in Presbyterian churches. It also refers to the district or jurisdiction of a presbyter (elder), and to the home of a presbyter.

The Presbyterian church in New Zealand famously destroyed 27 years of records of children in their care, The Royal Commission of Inquiry said its investigation into abuse at Presbyterian Support Otago was made particularly difficult because the organization destroyed its records in 2017 and 2018.

Back to the Catholics, to point out the obvious, Catholic priests are expected to adhere to a vow of celibacy, which means they are not supposed to have children.

Sosefo strayed from the flock, and began touring with a wolf pack rock heavy metal band.

Sosefo Sateki Raass was allowed to resign by the Catholic Church, instead of forcibly removed from a clerical state (laicized).

I wonder if the New Zealand Catholic Bishops' Conference gave him a going away party at Rainbow's End's Kidz Kingdom, with free entrance for children, using their children's custom printed goody bags saying "for a good time call _________ at __________."

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#3303496 31-Oct-2024 08:32

The Catholics do know their dictionary

Presbytery

noun

1.a body of Church elders and ministers, especially (in Presbyterian Churches) an administrative body (court) representing all the local congregations of a district.

2.the house of a Roman Catholic parish priest.

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#3303497 31-Oct-2024 08:35

neb:

deepred: There's a case for the Charities Commission to revoke non-profit status for the likes of the Destiny Church & BestStart.

Governments have been very wary of getting dragged into debates over what is and isn't a valid religion, see for example cases like the Universal Life Church where anyone can become an ordained minister. There was even a "church" set up specifically to point out the scam that is the tax-exempt status of some "churches"... and it was granted tax-exempt status.

The validity of the religion should have zero bearing on a charity status. Any given religion is equally as in/valid as any other. You can choose to believe or not believe in whomever or whatever you want.

The deciding factors should be around the way income is used etc. Eg, Sanitarium is very clearly a for profit business, making, marketing and selling products. The religion side of it has nothing to do with it. Destiny Church is a cult by every definition, so I'm not sure how you'd define that they are not a charity but the amount of money they bring in for their own benefit is astounding compared to any perceived help they may provide the community (not to mention repeatedly failing to provide audited accounts to DIA as required to maintain charity status).

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#3303500 31-Oct-2024 08:40

That should be captured by the beneficiary of the money being taxed. Destiny may be exempt but its Bishop isn't necessarily.

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#3303509 31-Oct-2024 09:06

Bung: That should be captured by the beneficiary of the money being taxed. Destiny may be exempt but its Bishop isn't necessarily.

That statement is a bit confusing.

You're saying that taxes should be imposed on the recipients of the benefits from the revenue. It also suggests that while churches as institutions may be exempt from paying taxes, this exemption doesn't automatically extend to the individuals leading these churches.

In the context of your statement, the "recipients of the benefits from the revenue" could refer to individuals or entities that benefit financially from the money that is taxed. This could include church leaders who receive salaries or other financial benefits from the church's funds, while the church itself remains tax-exempt.

I could be wrong, as I said it a bit vague.