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  #2970347 20-Sep-2022 08:43
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Thank goodness the queen stuff is finally over. In spite of my best efforts, I now know more about the royal family than I ever wanted to.

 

 





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  #2970352 20-Sep-2022 08:48
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  #2970437 20-Sep-2022 11:22
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Rikkitic:

 

Thank goodness the queen stuff is finally over. In spite of my best efforts, I now know more about the royal family than I ever wanted to.

 

 

In your dreams.

 

Every single thing Charles III does will be "historic" and "first by a king", and hence suitable for padding out a news bulletin at no cost.

 

 

 

[Mod edit (MF): fixed King's name spelling]

 

 




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  #2970713 21-Sep-2022 03:40
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eSIMs. Very cool.





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  #2970719 21-Sep-2022 05:12
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eracode:

 

eSIMs. Very cool.

 

 

Indeed, but with the exception of the then missing possibility to move the physical SIM with the same phone number into another (backup) smartphone without any effort in case of a defect.

 

 





     

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  #2970728 21-Sep-2022 07:47
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Tinkerisk:

 

eracode:

 

eSIMs. Very cool.

 

 

Indeed, but with the exception of the then missing possibility to move the physical SIM with the same phone number into another (backup) smartphone without any effort in case of a defect.

 

 

Correct. I haven't seen a good reason for eSIM yet.





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  #2970783 21-Sep-2022 08:09
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I do wish they worked like the pre-launch mockups showed. I remember seeing a 'screenshot' of a phone where someone had gone overseas and picked "set up eSIM", then had been presented with a list of providers and plans, ready to set up a prepaid connection. What did we end up with? "Scan the QR code that you got from the shop".


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  #2970786 21-Sep-2022 08:23
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  #2970791 21-Sep-2022 08:37
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freitasm:

 

Correct. I haven't seen a good reason for eSIM yet.

 

 

I think the use case for eSIM (for me) is to consolidate to one phone from two, assuming that the physical SIM tray remains. 

 

I like the idea of a dual-SIM phone, so if one is an eSIM, so be it. 





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  #2970894 21-Sep-2022 11:00
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When my phone bricks itself, I cant pull the sim out and put it into another one like I can with physical sims. Unless they have a portal to log into and just get the sim from the telco over the net, then its a huge downgrade.

 

I cant leave a sim for someone else when or have it left for me when I have to phone-sit for them.

 

Other than for secondary devices like watches and GPS trackers etc, I see it as a major downgrade. It has some people I know in the US looking at importing their next iPhone to keep being able to use physical sims. Not all providers over there have esims yet, just the big ones.





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  #2970895 21-Sep-2022 11:01
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Handsomedan:

 

I think the use case for eSIM (for me) is to consolidate to one phone from two, assuming that the physical SIM tray remains. 

 

I like the idea of a dual-SIM phone, so if one is an eSIM, so be it. 

 

 

Everyone I know that has moved a work and personal phone into one device has regretted it. Work device management stuff, inability to have 2 totally seperate SMS apps, notifications coming thru, no way to turn sims off like turning a phone off. No way to easily leave the work phone in the desk at work when not on call.





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  #2970953 21-Sep-2022 13:57
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Handsomedan:

 

I think the use case for eSIM (for me) is to consolidate to one phone from two, assuming that the physical SIM tray remains. 

 

I like the idea of a dual-SIM phone, so if one is an eSIM, so be it. 

 

 

All the smartphones (including private ones) I have had so far have had dual SIM slots. One as the main SIM at home, the other with a prepaid SIM of the country I was in. (Now I have one with a physical SIM and an eSIM which isn‘t exactly the same thing).

 

The solution in the long run can only be a MultiSIM (two or more eSIMs with the same phone number), which the user can simply port. And this also applies when the smartphone can no longer be switched on.

 

A MultiSIM is also a basic requirement for a cellular smartwatch - who wants to have two different phone numbers in their watch and smartphone with no roaming between the two?

 

 





     

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  #2970983 21-Sep-2022 14:52
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richms:

 

Everyone I know that has moved a work and personal phone into one device has regretted it.

 

 

Apart from that, it's a data security risk. In my company it was and still is strictly forbidden - for a good reason.

 

 





     

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  #2970986 21-Sep-2022 14:58
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Tinkerisk:

 

The solution in the long run can only be a MultiSIM (two or more eSIMs with the same phone number), which the user can simply port. And this also applies when the smartphone can no longer be switched on.

 

 

Ummm... I don't understand why one SIM couldn't be registered to 2 different networks. If in Australia, then traffic will come via your Aussie telco, who will charge you according to their rules. If in NZ, the same applies to your NZ telco.

 

 


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  #2970996 21-Sep-2022 15:27
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frankv:

 

Tinkerisk:

 

The solution in the long run can only be a MultiSIM (two or more eSIMs with the same phone number), which the user can simply port. And this also applies when the smartphone can no longer be switched on.

 

 

Ummm... I don't understand why one SIM couldn't be registered to 2 different networks. If in Australia, then traffic will come via your Aussie telco, who will charge you according to their rules. If in NZ, the same applies to your NZ telco.

 

 

In this context, it is not a physical MultiSIM that is meant, but a Multi(-e)SIM, which is apparently only established by 2 providers in NZ at present. Additionally, you can‘t roam between a cellular smartwatch and a smartphone with different providers.

 

Your understanding is having one SIM and phone number for many networks (i.e. AUS+NZ) in one single device (smartphone) - but what I like to say is having multiple (e)SIMs with a single phone number for many devices (i.e. cellular smartwatch and smartphone) in one network.

 

Without this roaming within the same network and phone number, it is otherwise not possible to ensure a seamless transition between a phone call accepted on a smartwatch to a continued call on the smartphone. There would then still be two independent devices, each with its own telephone number.

 

 

 

But now … 

 

Currently, providers who don’t have it yet are flooded with cancellations here (which are possible within 14 days). From what I've been told, mainly from hasty Apple Ultra customers who haven't read or understood the small print and are even ranting about why the telco providers would not unlock the satellite emergency call function for iPhones in Germany? Add a few fun false alarms to that (in US+CAN) and I think the satellite emergency call thing is over. :-)

 

… and this is what makes me smile!

 

(I personally think it is unserious of Apple to suggest reliability to the users, which requires significantly more hardware effort and robustness for reliability).

 

 

 

 

 

 





     

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