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  #216011 19-May-2009 17:29
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  #216014 19-May-2009 17:32
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  #216027 19-May-2009 18:21
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  #216028 19-May-2009 18:24
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@xpd: S.W.A.T. team dispatched, buddy.

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  #216035 19-May-2009 18:53
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bazzer:
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bazzer: No.

I don't know the details of your study, but surely our answers are only relevant if you know how many people should be getting notices.  Otherwise, what conclusion can you draw?  xpd is the only one downloading TV shows?


My original intention was to quote the percentage of technical people (i.e. those with the knowledge of how to download torrents etc) that had received notices (or other communication) from their ISP or another organisaion, and whether or not those accusations where valid.

I was hoping to see something like "... out of 100 comments, 27 people receieved communciations regarding their downloading of materially considered under copyright, however 9 people where incorrectly accused and had never downloaded any music they had not purchased" (numbers made up)

This relates to the linked PDF in another of my posts about the inaccuracy of the methods used in tracking downloaders.  Hope that answers your question.

I guess it does.  Just seems a bit pointless.  You're not discovering anything about the distribution of the notifications.  I think currently most ISPs ignore it if they get an infringement notice from the States or something, don't they?  So what does your quick survey tell us?  Not a lot.  We don't know which ISPs are used, we don't know the habits of the user, we haven't learnt anything about it at all.  I wouldn't expect a lot of false positives in New Zealand, did you?

P.S. Sorry to hijack your thread, I was just worried about the relevance of your data in proving your hypothesis (although I still don't know what it is).


Fair enough comments, and I agree with them all, but in the interests of getting results I tried to keep the questions as simple as possible, and getting people to answer yes or now usually gets more responses than asking people to give detailed information such as ISP.

And honestly I wouldn't know if NZ gets more false positives than anywhere else; I would have thought the numbers would have been the same as anywhere percentage wise, although the local laws and ISP's do make something of a difference.


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2. Yes, they got a notice sent via the IM on whatever P2P client they were using.

 
 
 

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  #216057 19-May-2009 19:47
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#216147 19-May-2009 23:40
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xpd: Gee, am I the black sheep of Geekzone members ? :)


No, you are the only one with an ISP who upholds copyright notices.

If my particular ISP forwarded them on I'm sure I would've received one by now.  It always amazes me when people on the forums ask about problems with torrenting, they always seem to be just downloading Linux ISOs...


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  #216196 20-May-2009 10:08
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I'm with you xpd!

Yes and Yes (an episode of House that MySky failed to record, we need Hulu!!)

ISP: XNet (who told me two more and I'd be cut, I left them the next day).

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  #216201 20-May-2009 10:16
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Whoohooo!!!!
So it seems Xnet are the only ones who forward on the notices ;)

I left them also... not because of that however.




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  #216369 20-May-2009 15:50
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xpd: So it seems Xnet are the only ones who forward on the notices ;)


May or may not be one of the reasons why I didn't go with Xnet...


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  #216436 20-May-2009 19:34
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Hey all, just a quick thanks for all your answers, many more than I had hoped for, and some very interesting results. After tomorrow morning (Thursday 21st May) I will be totalling up the response, but it wont be that hard to count the 2 positives ;-) Thanks to xpd and kindjj for their honesty!

It is interesting to see there have been no false positives, possibly because as noted before, NZ ISP's may not take notice is any USA based DMCA takedowns since they have no legal standing here? (that's not a legal summary, just an educated guess!)

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