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#3093763 23-Jun-2023 08:06

Jase2985:
stainless steel mesh with apertures of three millimetres.

Sure, but insinkerators don’t blend the stuff you put into them, they literally just beat the everloving crap out of it until it fits into the exit pipe. Insinkerator even shows a paper that says the exit particle size is between 2.5 to 12.5mm.
Source: https://insinkerator.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Septic_MinnesotaStudy_2019.pdf

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#3093770 23-Jun-2023 08:14

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Jase2985:

stainless steel mesh with apertures of three millimetres.

Sure, but insinkerators don’t blend the stuff you put into them, they literally just beat the everloving crap out of it until it fits into the exit pipe. Insinkerator even shows a paper that says the exit particle size is between 2.5 to 12.5mm.
Source: https://insinkerator.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Septic_MinnesotaStudy_2019.pdf

all i was showing is your comment is not quiet correct

"biosolids are sent to landfill. They only treat literal liquids."

it goes in the trommel and as it rotates stuff breakes down in size and if it fits through the screen its processed. this is both food waste and human waste.

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#3094011 23-Jun-2023 11:42

@Senecio :

We have an insinkerator, the only stuff that goes down there are liquid leftovers. Curry sauces etc... that still contain a few chopped up veggies. You just can't bag stuff like that as they leak everywhere so they go down the insinkerator.

So having this convo with my son this morning (who actually read the whole brochure).

AKL Council suggests freezing bags if they get a bit smelly. So we're going to try a bag in a container in the freezer, and scrape plates into that for things like sauces, and the morning of put the liquids bag in the pickup container.

Seems a bit of faff honestly, but the kids get into this and I guess if it's a habit it might work.

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#3094069 23-Jun-2023 12:08

We discussed this last night as well. People forming new habits is the requirement for this to work. People who today throw everything in the rubbish or who only split between rubbish and recycling will need to get in the habit of separating organics (be they plant or meat) as a normal occurrence as part of food prep and cleaning - in order for this to work. If they can demonstrate the value (give us some nice tables showing the number of tons of material will be saved from the landfill by doing so, perhaps a photo of a person beside a mountain of waste for context) there's a chance enough people will get on board. At one point many people thought it was completely unreasonable to separate recycling from rubbish - but for many that is now accepted as normal and not seen as unreasonable inconvenience. The same will need to happen for compostable food scraps if it's going to be successful.

Hopefully they have left sufficient budget for the education/awareness campaign required to get people on board, and it hasn't been cut as that would be a way of rendering the existing spend on the containers and the collection as ineffective and wasteful.

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#3094073 23-Jun-2023 12:32

In Switzerland they have people going through bins to identify those who throw out recycable items with general rubbish. I.e. don't put an envelope with your name on it in the same bag as an empty can of beans or you'll get a stiff fine from the local government.

And you have to take your recycling to certain drop off points, separate it yourself, even down to the glass colour.

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#3094113 23-Jun-2023 14:43

I'm quite keen to get ours. As I used to live in Christchurch, I got in the habit of keeping a paper bag in a takeaway container on the counter for food scraps. When I moved up to Auckland I kept doing it because it helps with the bin smells and keeps the inside of the bin from getting disgusting. It won't be much of a change in routine for me, just "going back" to putting it in green bin instead of the red one. (Paper bags are something like $60/500 so are technically cheaper than the pink liners, and are more useful for other stuff).

We don't have any gardening/yard space at all. I can see how it would be less useful if people already have an organics/compost set up or collection.

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#3094114 23-Jun-2023 14:46

Swamphen:
I'm quite keen to get ours.

If you're on the North Shore, or don't mind driving here, I can give you early access to one...

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#3094812 25-Jun-2023 19:41

cddt:

In Switzerland they have people going through bins to identify those who throw out recycable items with general rubbish. I.e. don't put an envelope with your name on it in the same bag as an empty can of beans or you'll get a stiff fine from the local government.

That is only partially correct. You will be punished if you throw harmful substances into the rubbish - paints, varnishes, solvents, used engine oil, etc. have no place there either.

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#3095245 27-Jun-2023 08:32

Tinkerisk:

That is only partially correct. You will be punished if you throw harmful substances into the rubbish - paints, varnishes, solvents, used engine oil, etc. have no place there either.

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#3095250 27-Jun-2023 09:16

Swamphen:

I'm quite keen to get ours. As I used to live in Christchurch, I got in the habit of keeping a paper bag in a takeaway container on the counter for food scraps. When I moved up to Auckland I kept doing it because it helps with the bin smells and keeps the inside of the bin from getting disgusting. It won't be much of a change in routine for me, just "going back" to putting it in green bin instead of the red one. (Paper bags are something like $60/500 so are technically cheaper than the pink liners, and are more useful for other stuff).

We don't have any gardening/yard space at all. I can see how it would be less useful if people already have an organics/compost set up or collection.

Or just by from countdown with click and collect and you get 20 bags for a $1. I always find it funny how they pack, as everyhting could fit in 5 bags but no, we must use as many bags as we can 🤣

I am not complaining as we use it as fire lighters, bin bags, etc :p

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#3095251 27-Jun-2023 09:20

Looking at some of the houses around here on bin days, Waste Management has now changed green waste to the same schedule as rubbish/recycling. Granted that is only once a month it collides, there are some kerbs with 3/6/9 bins out

Space is going to be a juggle too i think

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#3095273 27-Jun-2023 10:14

Silvrav:

Or just by from countdown with click and collect and you get 20 bags for a $1. I always find it funny how they pack, as everyhting could fit in 5 bags but no, we must use as many bags as we can 🤣

I am not complaining as we use it as fire lighters, bin bags, etc :p

They are often not being picked by the same person so they will each have a bag for your stuff.

What amazes me is that if I go to new world and buy paper bags at the checkout, I pay per each but if I have them gather the order I pay a single fee for all of them, and it works out cheaper.

Its almost as if they dont want me to come into the store.

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#3095283 27-Jun-2023 10:30

I don't tend to use the click and collect because I'm paranoid they'll only give us the almost-expired stuff, but I'm thinking about it since I can't find a supermarket here with the "no human-interaction-needed" (aka Shop-and-go) guns. But it's an idea if I want to be the frugalest-dougal.

To be a downer/pedant, though, I think the twine handles on the supermarket paper bags make them ineligible for the organics. Though I guess you could always rip them off.

neb:

If you're on the North Shore, or don't mind driving here, I can give you early access to one...

HA! I'd have to drive it back up each week and put it out with your red bins, not a bad deal except the gas subsidy is ending soon.

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#3095342 27-Jun-2023 11:05

hsvhel:
Looking at some of the houses around here on bin days, Waste Management has now changed green waste to the same schedule as rubbish/recycling. Granted that is only once a month it collides, there are some kerbs with 3/6/9 bins out

Damn wokeism, a red bin, an orange bin, a yellow bin, a green bin, a blue bin, an indigo bin, a violet bin, and then you're up against the neighbour's red bin and the cycle starts again.

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#3095413 27-Jun-2023 14:06

Swamphen:

To be a downer/pedant, though, I think the twine handles on the supermarket paper bags make them ineligible for the organics. Though I guess you could always rip them off.

The bags I get from Countdown have handles that are twisted paper.

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