Newshub to close

Forums › Off topic › Newshub to close

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | ... | 33

13956 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

#3201807 29-Feb-2024 21:38

I was thinking about the broadcasting fee tonight actually - I remember it was abolished in 1999.

I think if they tried to re-introduce it now (remember, it was for owning and using a TV) most people would just sell their TV's and watch what they want in some other way (phone, PC, etc).

Rikkitic

Awrrr
18660 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

#3201824 29-Feb-2024 22:19

I don't know how it was done here, but in Britain, which still has the license fee, it applies to any device that allows you to watch or listen to any form of transmission in the UK, including broadcast, streaming, cable or anything else.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

networkn

Networkn
32351 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#3201831 29-Feb-2024 22:51

MikeB4:

New Zealand was here and OK before Newshub and it will be here after Newshub. Good lord

NZ was here before electricity, roads, cellphone coverage and all sorts of things that I wouldn't want to imagine NZ without now. I don't feel NZ is better off with less news outlets. I don't support a Government bailout in this particular situation, I think people need to start valuing their news sources by contributing to their survival and God forbid, thriving.

'Good', quality Journalism isn't free to produce, it's unlikely to survive whilst it's free to consume.

Handle9

11391 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#3201845 1-Mar-2024 06:02

Rikkitic:

I don't know how it was done here, but in Britain, which still has the license fee, it applies to any device that allows you to watch or listen to any form of transmission in the UK, including broadcast, streaming, cable or anything else.

It doesn't apply to audio, only "TV."

You need a TV Licence if you:

watch or record live TV on any channel or service
use BBC iPlayer

You do not need a TV Licence to watch:

streaming services like Netflix and Disney Plus
on-demand TV through services like All 4 and Amazon Prime Video
videos on websites like YouTube
videos or DVDs

quickymart

13956 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

#3201855 1-Mar-2024 07:32

Taken from: https://archive.ph/5VIEM

Broadcasting Minister Melissa Lee’s less-than-stellar and frankly puzzling comments on the collapse of Newshub, with around 300 job losses, came under the spotlight of Newshub political reporter Amelia Wade.
In initial remarks to political journalists, Lee played down the fact there would be just one (state-owned) television news network left delivering New Zealand news.
“Well, there’s Sky as well. There’s a whole lot of other media about,” she told journalists.
Sky TV does not employ any journalists. It has a 5.30pm news bulletin, hosted by Eric Young - it’s produced by Newshub and is also facing the axe unless Sky can find another New Zealand newsroom to deliver it news and video packages.

I must confess I've never, ever liked Melissa Lee - going back to when the National government was looking at changing copyright laws in 2009 and she blatantly flouted them - to this? How did she even get this role? Did Luxon just look at her and say, "well, you were a journalist for a while, therefore you know all about broadcasting. You can be the minister for it. Next!"...because she seems completely clueless as to what to do as Broadcasting Minister.

MikeB4

18435 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

Trusted

#3201858 1-Mar-2024 07:40

Rikkitic:

I don't know how it was done here, but in Britain, which still has the license fee, it applies to any device that allows you to watch or listen to any form of transmission in the UK, including broadcast, streaming, cable or anything else.

It was a good thing when the $110 TV license was scrapped in 1999 to be replaced with funding from taxation, a subsidy that some say is corporate welfare. The cost of collection outweighed the benefits much like the $5.00 prescription fee, the then government collection agency (Baycorp) was probably the one to benefit the most. It would be a retrograde step to return to that model.

mudguard

2119 posts

Uber Geek

#3201866 1-Mar-2024 08:10

richms:

quickymart:

I would say a lot more people watch the news at 6 on either channel as opposed to listening to something like The Platform.

How many do it because that is what they have done for the last 40 years only?

What purpose does a scheduled reading of stories fulfil that deserves it to continue to exist in the same way that it did before everyone was carrying a device that could watch a video of events from the other side of the world at any time they chose to?

I was expecting that the rebrand to newshub would be the start of taking away the 6pm talking fest and become more online but it seems that they kept up with the live performance aspect of it instead of making it more relevant to people today.

I'm in a chat group with golfers and am the youngest and it drives me insane that some get so irate at the news (6PM). I haven't watched free to air type tv for over a decade and I can't see the appeal of having about half a dozen news articles stretched out over an hour with ads.

I guess it's same thing when I'm looking for instructions and I just want a PDF, not a ten minute video. I read faster than I can watch a video.

Quic Broadband

Move to New Zealand's best fibre broadband service (affiliate link). Free setup code: R587125ERQ6VE. Note that to use Quic Broadband you must be comfortable with configuring your own router.

MikeB4

18435 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

Trusted

#3201872 1-Mar-2024 08:14

mudguard:

I'm in a chat group with golfers and am the youngest and it drives me insane that some get so irate at the news (6PM). I haven't watched free to air type tv for over a decade and I can't see the appeal of having about half a dozen news articles stretched out over an hour with ads.

I guess it's same thing when I'm looking for instructions and I just want a PDF, not a ten minute video. I read faster than I can watch a video.

And a big chunk of it is reporters interviewing reporters and of course "LIVE CROSS"

Rikkitic

Awrrr
18660 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

#3201883 1-Mar-2024 08:37

Different people have different tastes. I don't think the news is done particularly well here but I do like the evening news format as it supposedly provides a handy overview of the day's newsworthy events. If I want to know more about a particular thing, I am perfectly capable of looking it up.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

alasta

6705 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

Subscriber

#3201890 1-Mar-2024 08:55

MikeB4:

It was a good thing when the $110 TV license was scrapped in 1999 to be replaced with funding from taxation, a subsidy that some say is corporate welfare. The cost of collection outweighed the benefits much like the $5.00 prescription fee, the then government collection agency (Baycorp) was probably the one to benefit the most. It would be a retrograde step to return to that model.

I seem to recall that the campaign against the broadcasting fee was spearheaded by Lindsay Perigo who took the government to court on the grounds that it was an illegal tax. We really don't want to go through all that again.

A year or two ago there was some talk about Warner Brothers Discovery introducing a premium paid subscription offering to ThreeNow. I suspect that wouldn't have saved the newsroom, but it would have given them a better chance than just hoping that advertising revenue would pick up again.

quickymart

13956 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

#3201907 1-Mar-2024 09:52

Some more on Melissa Lee's (frankly woeful) performance yesterday: https://archive.ph/sD89g

Bluntj

556 posts

Ultimate Geek

#3201913 1-Mar-2024 10:11

MikeB4:

Headline in Stuff.

"Tova O'Brien: I don't want to imagine New Zealand without Newshub"

New Zealand was here and OK before Newshub and it will be here after Newshub. Good lord

I can imagine NZ without Tova and her clickbait reporting.

NZ was a different place before TV3 and in todays world competition is required to keep TVNZ on their game. Can't imagine how TVNZ will be in a few years without competition.

alasta

6705 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

Subscriber

#3201931 1-Mar-2024 10:49

I am surprised at all this talk about TVNZ. It might have been relevant 25 years ago when the 6pm bulletin was central to everyone's daily routine, but does anyone even watch TVNZ any more? I catch the odd glimpse of it when I visit my elderly parents, but I haven't actually sat down and watched anything on TVNZ for at least 20 years.

SaltyNZ

8230 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

2degrees

Lifetime subscriber

#3201938 1-Mar-2024 11:15

alasta:

I catch the odd glimpse of it when I visit my elderly parents

There's two problems here. That's one of them: there are hundreds of thousands of people who still rely on the 6pm news, even if you and I think it's archaic (I don't even have an FTA antenna on the house). But we can't just leave them high and dry. My FIL will never learn how to read, let alone watch, news on his phone. As far as he is concerned, the "smart" part of it just makes it more difficult and confusing to use the "phone" part.

Separately there is the issue that there is now one less voice of journalism in this country that at least tries to be neutral as opposed to being explicitly a cooker rabbit hole like Reality Check Radio or The Platform.

If we leave a vacuum, those will happily expand to fill the space. And no matter what side of the political spectrum you fall on, we don't need to breed any more conspiracy theorists who vote religiously.

iPad Pro 11" + iPhone 15 Pro Max + 2degrees 4tw!

These comments are my own and do not represent the opinions of 2degrees.

heavenlywild

5061 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#3201956 1-Mar-2024 11:45

The media aren't doing themselves any favours.

Today you look at NZ Herald and Stuff. Both have headlines saying Luxon is calming the accommodation allowance. So what? It's perfectly legal, and he is entitled under the rules.

This is why the MSM is in such a state. There's no real investigative journalism. It's all about "gotcha" news.

Don't get me started about Taylor Swift news. Just last week there was a big headline saying her NFL partner had arrived in Sydney to join her. Fan or not, is that really news? Is that the main concern NZ has right now?

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | ... | 33