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  #3025957 24-Jan-2023 00:07
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The plum tree needs a bit of a cleanup, particularly the long leggy shoots that have gone straight up from previously pruned areas, so I had a look at when the best time to do this is. Quoting various gardening web sites, "pruning is done in winter when trees are dormant", "the best time to prune fruit trees is late winter into early spring", "prune in late summer after fruiting has finished, however it can be done in early-mid autumn if necessary", "best pruned in spring or summer", "best pruned in midsummer", "prune immediately after harvest", "plum trees should only be pruned in their growing season", and many more. So the best time to prune is definitely winter, or spring, or summer, or autumn, depending on who you ask.

 

 

And in terms of the need to do it: "leaving any kind of plum unpruned will not do much, if any, harm", "it is important to prune each year". So pruning is both important and not important.

 

 

Homeopaths have got their act together better than this.

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  #3025980 24-Jan-2023 07:19
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neb: The plum tree needs a bit of a cleanup, particularly the long leggy shoots that have gone straight up from previously pruned areas, so I had a look at when the best time to do this is. Quoting various gardening web sites, "pruning is done in winter when trees are dormant", "the best time to prune fruit trees is late winter into early spring", "prune in late summer after fruiting has finished, however it can be done in early-mid autumn if necessary", "best pruned in spring or summer", "best pruned in midsummer", "prune immediately after harvest", "plum trees should only be pruned in their growing season", and many more. So the best time to prune is definitely winter, or spring, or summer, or autumn, depending on who you ask. And in terms of the need to do it: "leaving any kind of plum unpruned will not do much, if any, harm", "it is important to prune each year". So pruning is both important and not important. Homeopaths have got their act together better than this.

 

Similarly, I googled why my avocado tree dropped all it's tiny fruit early not long after they appeared.  It was either not enough water or too much water.  Thanks, that's really helpful.





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  #3026061 24-Jan-2023 10:37
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geoffwnz:

 

Similarly, I googled why my avocado tree dropped all it's tiny fruit early not long after they appeared.  It was either not enough water or too much water.  Thanks, that's really helpful.

 

 

On a visit to an Avocado grower he told us that the tree sets all the fruit it can, then later drops the number down to what is viable for the tree to take to full maturity. May not be linked to your issue.


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  #3026074 24-Jan-2023 11:12
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My rule is simple, trees get cut when they are bothering me. If they cant handle it then too bad.





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  #3026130 24-Jan-2023 11:43
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richms:

 

My rule is simple, trees get cut when they are bothering me. If they cant handle it then too bad.

 

 

I hope you don't have any children!

 

 





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  #3026255 24-Jan-2023 13:47
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wally22:

 

geoffwnz:

 

Similarly, I googled why my avocado tree dropped all it's tiny fruit early not long after they appeared.  It was either not enough water or too much water.  Thanks, that's really helpful.

 

 

On a visit to an Avocado grower he told us that the tree sets all the fruit it can, then later drops the number down to what is viable for the tree to take to full maturity. May not be linked to your issue.

 

 

In this instance, zero, was the resulting number.  So, who knows.  It's the first year that it has flowered, approximately 5 years after planting.  So maybe it wasn't ready yet.  They are a very slow return tree since you have to wait at least 5 years after planting before they bear fruit, and apparently 2 years from flower to edible fruit.  So, another 3 years to wait for next years flower crop to maybe fruit and stay on the tree.

 

 





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  #3026365 24-Jan-2023 14:50
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geoffwnz:

 

In this instance, zero, was the resulting number.  So, who knows.  It's the first year that it has flowered, approximately 5 years after planting.  So maybe it wasn't ready yet.  They are a very slow return tree since you have to wait at least 5 years after planting before they bear fruit, and apparently 2 years from flower to edible fruit.  So, another 3 years to wait for next years flower crop to maybe fruit and stay on the tree.

 

 

Sounds about right. Your info on water may be relevant. The tree obviously "decided"it couldn't sustain any fruit.

 

He also warned us off purchasing very small fruit as it would be these, would have no fat content and never ripen.

 

Before I learned this I lived with a large tree and spent countless seasons trying to "ripen" those small fruit!

 

Edit: On a large tree those small fruit were still quite large, but definitely smaller than usual.


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  #3026424 24-Jan-2023 15:26
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Rikkitic:

richms:

 

My rule is simple, trees get cut when they are bothering me. If they cant handle it then too bad.

 

 

I hope you don't have any children!

 

 

Hey, his bonsai kids are very cute!

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  #3026427 24-Jan-2023 15:29
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wally22:

Sounds about right. Your info on water may be relevant. The tree obviously "decided"it couldn't sustain any fruit.

 

 

It could also be this crazy weather, friend of mine has two avocado trees, both of which dropped all their leaves this year after being fine in previous years, my guess being root rot and ensuing stress. Our peach trees also acted very oddly, putting out fruit buds but no leaves for a long time, and then in the last week or two they finally appeared as the fruit withered and fell off, again something it's never done before.

 

 

Looks like it's just a bad year for fruit all round.

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gzt: Random people think they see a rainbow in Pink Floyd's 50th Anniversary logo and...

 

I got interested in this topic because the album cover for DSOTM depicts a 6 colour spectrum (missing indigo as present in a real world spectrum)

 

My brief google research suggested that Pink Floyd released DSOTM was  in 1973, while the pride flag was created in 1978.

 

Makes me wonder if the guy who invented the original pride flag was listening to the DSOTM at the time.

 

 





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  #3026448 24-Jan-2023 16:10
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geoffwnz:

 

In this instance, zero, was the resulting number.  So, who knows.  It's the first year that it has flowered, approximately 5 years after planting.  So maybe it wasn't ready yet.  They are a very slow return tree since you have to wait at least 5 years after planting before they bear fruit, and apparently 2 years from flower to edible fruit.  So, another 3 years to wait for next years flower crop to maybe fruit and stay on the tree.

 

 

Are the flowers getting pollinated?

 

I've heard you need two avo trees to ensure fruiting.





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  #3026464 24-Jan-2023 16:34
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  #3026470 24-Jan-2023 16:38
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freitasm:

The Surfdale Sausager: Waiheke's Surfdale Sausager: 'That's when I knew it was a serious problem' | RNZ News

 

 

From TFA:

 

 

"It's tearing my friend group apart, it's tearing Waiheke apart, because we just don't know who it is. It's terrible."

 

 

Talk about FWP. It's slightly annoying mixed with strangely amusing, it's not tearing the world apart.

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  #3026645 24-Jan-2023 19:34
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MikeAqua:

 

geoffwnz:

 

In this instance, zero, was the resulting number.  So, who knows.  It's the first year that it has flowered, approximately 5 years after planting.  So maybe it wasn't ready yet.  They are a very slow return tree since you have to wait at least 5 years after planting before they bear fruit, and apparently 2 years from flower to edible fruit.  So, another 3 years to wait for next years flower crop to maybe fruit and stay on the tree.

 

 

Are the flowers getting pollinated?

 

I've heard you need two avo trees to ensure fruiting.

 

 

Given that fruit did appear, albeit briefly, I would suggest that yes it got pollinated.

 

Much like the too much or not enough water, google suggests that you definitely do and definitely don't need two trees.  *shrug*
That said, Avo's flower both male and female on the same tree, alternating one in the morning, one in the afternoon (apparently), so two trees aren't *needed* but I have been contemplating putting in a second tree.  Downside is that it'll be at least 5 years until that becomes productive, even for flowers.





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  #3026650 24-Jan-2023 19:41
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It's actually surprising how much stuff will get pollinated even if you've only got one of them and they're not self-fertile, several of our trees bear fruit every year despite there being only one of them and no others in the area that we know of.

 

 

To the point where I've just assumed that if you chuck just one in, something will pollinate it.

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