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networkn:They are the bane of my wifes existence, We finally have them under control thank God. Ended up throwing out a lot of food to get there though.
Same here. How did you get them under control?
neb:networkn:Same here. How did you get them under control?
They are the bane of my wifes existence, We finally have them under control thank God. Ended up throwing out a lot of food to get there though.
Every single item of food out of our pantry and food cupboards, outside. Very careful examination of every item, looking for moths, eggs etc. They are sneaky and they can get into apparently 'sealed' containers. We found they ate through the bottom of cornflour boxes etc. You can see the signs if you look carefully. Every item was checked by 2 people.
Pantry Moth traps in and around the pantry.
Extreme vigilence looking around for them.
Once everything was removed, a very thorough clean of the surfaces around the area.
Took us a couple of goes of this, as we missed some the first couple of times. Eggs are the problem.
neb: OK, so same as we've been doing. Thought we were rid of them until I saw two moths in the flour container today, sigh.
You need better containers, but somewhere, somehow, you've missed some.
neb:never heard of em to be honest. After a google they look a bit like that common moth that'll spin round in circles and dive bomb itself into the middle of a plate of food if eating at night time around an open light.MadEngineer: White butterflies.Pantry moths. No matter what you do, sealed containers, traps, permethrin, they still get in and spoil the food.
MadEngineer: After a google they look a bit like that common moth that'll spin round in circles and dive bomb itself into the middle of a plate of food if eating at night time around an open light.
Nothing like it. They dig into any kind of sealed food container containing dry food (flour, rice, corn, kat fud, etc) and lay eggs that turn into maggot-like worms that chew their way through everything and produce even more pantry moths. The only thing you'll ever see is the dead moths inside the still-sealed containers when you open them, at which point it's too late.
ive just used traps, that got them under control pretty quick and not had any issues since. I still keep a trap in there even though there are none.
Jase2985:
ive just used traps, that got them under control pretty quick and not had any issues since. I still keep a trap in there even though there are none.
We trapped for a year or more, we weren't able to get them under control with that alone.
neb: OK, so same as we've been doing. Thought we were rid of them until I saw two moths in the flour container today, sigh.
What type of container? Pretty sure they can’t get into Sistema containers with the blue o-ring.
Sometimes I just sit and think. Other times I just sit.
Something that really annoys me is small companies with really great innovative products being bought by other companies that have no understanding of the products and proceed to ruin them.
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eracode:What type of container? Pretty sure they can’t get into Sistema containers with the blue o-ring.
neb:eracode:
What type of container? Pretty sure they can’t get into Sistema containers with the blue o-ring.
That's exactly what they're getting into.
I think they (or their eggs) are almost certainly already in the food before you put it in the big container. Seals on those containers are generally pretty good and rather more impenetrable than paper and plastic bags.
It may be surprising to some people, but food regulations for the allowable # of commonly found live bugs, mouse poos, vegetable things that are not peas or lentils etc as the label states, that can be detected in food commodities before it's condemned is generally a number >0 per unit measure.
Fred99:
I think they (or their eggs) are almost certainly already in the food before you put it in the big container. Seals on those containers are generally pretty good and rather more impenetrable than paper and plastic bags.
This ^^
We figured out we were getting them from bulk food. We'd bring them home and put them into quality sealed jars and good containers and then getting them inside the containers. Stopped buying bulk and the problem reduced massively.
It sounds wasteful but when we've been overrun we basically ditched every single item of dry food and then cleaned every tin and container and shelf etc to get rid of any eggs or lavae. Going full nuclear is the only successful strategy we discovered.
Fred99:
It may be surprising to some people, but food regulations for the allowable # of commonly found live bugs, mouse poos, vegetable things that are not peas or lentils etc as the label states, that can be detected in food commodities before it's condemned is generally a number >0 per unit measure.
My friend had a job when he left school making muesli bars and one of his daily tasks was to sieve out the bugs from the industrial bags of seeds and grains they used. Plenty were alive too.
My father was on a transport ship in the Pacific during World War II. He said the sailors used to enjoy the raisins baked into the bread. Until they discovered they were weevils.
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Rikkitic:
My father was on a transport ship in the Pacific during World War II. He said the sailors used to enjoy the raisins baked into the bread. Until they discovered they were weevils.
We had a plague of mice on our boat when on holiday a few years ago. Prior to that episode, I had the opinion that the occasional mouse in your house at least is a somewhat cute intruder that causes little real harm. I'd never seen a mouse on the boat before, didn't have any traps, and it would have taken a day to go back to civilisation to get some. In hindsight I should have done that on the first sign of huge annoyance from very little things.
When every packet of everything in your food lockers has gone stale because mice can't get their act together to figure out the food supply would last longer for everyone - them too - if they'd finish the packet they'd opened before opening a new one, if their sharp little teeth couldn't easily chew holes in the sides of tupperware, if they didn't leave trails of "chocolate hail" as they made their way to the sink to get fresh water or whatever else they could find to wash down their tucker, and if the inside of the boat was all smooth surfaces - not lined so they could crawl upside down like flies, then bounce into your hair at 2am, and humans wouldn't respond to such playful mouse fun with blood-curdling screams, and if there weren't 1001 places inaccessible to humans where the mouse families could chill out during daylight hours...
Never ever again do I want to see a mouse on a boat. In that case there were "only" three of them I caught when I finally got some traps - although they're remarkably good swimmers (with the proviso that seagulls are very fond of plucking them from the water during daylight hours) - so some may have abandoned ship when they'd heard me suggesting in despair that the best option may be to set the boat alight. They caused misery. I now hate mice with a vengeance.
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