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johnr:freitasm: Just got an email today:
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I want to ask a question on your site but wouldnt have a clue how too. My question is...Is there anyway to unlock an iPhone 4s that has had the IMEI number blocked by the carrier (telecom). I purchased it from trademe only to find out when I went to buy a micro sim for it that the freaking thing was blocked, telecom have told me that the previous owner had it on a contract and that if I was to pay the bill of $479 that they could unblock it not taking into account that I have just paid $925 for the phone. Please help me
Hmmm. Sorry sir, you have been scammed.
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And it will be black listed on Vodafone as well
John
Handle9:alasta:
This is a very interesting scenario. I would think that technically the telco would have no claim to the handset on the basis that it would not act as security on any debt, with the unpaid contract break fee being an unsecured debt.
It doesn't seem that they are making a claim on the handset, they're just declining service to that device. It's semantic but a bit different than registering a property security.
sen8or: A little short sighted by the telco, they presumably can still chase their original debtor for the debt, plus be earning income from a potential new customer
Although, is it essentially selling "stolen goods" given that they havent being paid for (ok, stolen is not the right term, but there is the potential for fraud I guess)
Does the seller have a few of these or a history of selling phones?
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Jaxson: Oh yeah, and the guy that bought something and I freighted it away. (Personally that's the end of it for me and I provide the tracking number, IF they request that type of shipping. If it gets lost etc, that's your problem to chase up as you bought something you couldn't pick up in person...)
Get an email later saying it didn't turn up and he's very annoyed etc. I looked online with the tracking number and it says it was delivered. Turns out though he's not even in the country, so how he determined it wasn't delivered it I don't know. Long story but when he's back in NZ he finds the docket and goes and collects from the depot/asks for a redeliver and it's all sweet.
Sitting in Red Face trademe feedback land during all of this until he finally finds it. Personally I don't agree that the buyer should be the only one that can comment...
heavenlywild:Athlonite: I recently bought a second hand modem/router on trademe for $10 + pnp I payed the $10+pnp the modem arrived all good I thought then got a redface negative feed back because his bank charged him $3 for the transaction he even emailed me to ask for the extra $3
I told Him tough snot not my fault your ASB bank charges you for transactions should added in the cost of that to the original auction price
I don't get it. Why would the bank charge him for a deposit made online?
Athlonite:heavenlywild:Athlonite: I recently bought a second hand modem/router on trademe for $10 + pnp I payed the $10+pnp the modem arrived all good I thought then got a redface negative feed back because his bank charged him $3 for the transaction he even emailed me to ask for the extra $3
I told Him tough snot not my fault your ASB bank charges you for transactions should added in the cost of that to the original auction price
I don't get it. Why would the bank charge him for a deposit made online?
It was a manual payment made at an Napier ASB bank branch but that doesn't mean I should be the one to cover what his bank charges him
Athlonite: No I shouldn't I advised him that this was to be the method of payment before making payment so it was upto him after that I made the payment that was required of me $10+pnp anything else is not my problem
I also don't chase buyers for bank fees I see that as my problem not theirs
Athlonite:
It was a manual payment made at an Napier ASB bank branch but that doesn't mean I should be the one to cover what his bank charges him
blakamin: I had a "parts wanted" ad.
Guy rang me up, I paid, never recieved the item.... he went to jail over xmas.
He scammed me and 15 other people to the tune of $8k
He was 17..
Was on Stuff.co.nz when he got sentenced to a year inside
edit. TM sent me an email warning me that someone had looked at my ad that was a scammer.
I emailed and told them, yeah, I know, he scammed me and I reported it to you... Only then did I get a reply.
The New Plymouth police were good tho.
BraaiGuy:Athlonite:
It was a manual payment made at an Napier ASB bank branch but that doesn't mean I should be the one to cover what his bank charges him
I disagree.
May I ask why you did a manual over the counter deposit? Maybe so that the funds could clear straight away in the sellers account? And you could have your item shipped sooner? Thats the only reason why I think somebody would want to do this.
A manual deposit fee is normally charged to the account owner. But as you are the one inside the bank, you should be the one to pay for the privelege of seeing a real person in a bank, not the person selling the item as he/she probably could not care less.
The very least is to pay the extra fee. Its the right thing for you as the buyer to do.
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