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#102747 21-May-2012 22:02

Please help by donating for this worthy cause!

Comment your pledge here then PM me and Ill give you the Bank account number.

Lets see how quickly we can get to their target of $75 TRILLION!!!!!

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#628624 21-May-2012 22:19

I'm sure there's a joke here somewhere, so could you please bring some light?

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#628628 21-May-2012 22:30

This http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/6958585/RIAA-wants-72-trillion-from-LimeWire

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#628629 21-May-2012 22:31

Ha ha ha..... Limewire. That is great...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/6958585/RIAA-wants-72-trillion-from-LimeWire

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#628638 21-May-2012 22:44

Oh god.

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#628700 22-May-2012 08:32

lets just ignore the crap reporting by stuff for now!

"The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) is asking the courts to force LimeWire to cough up a staggering US$75 trillion in damages.

No you didn't misread that last sentence, the RIAA really do expect LimeWire to pony up with US$75 trillion. Unsurprisingly the judge presiding over the case has labelled this amount as "absurd".

So just how absurd is this number? The GDP of the entire planet is estimated to be between US$59 and US$62 trillion."

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#628840 22-May-2012 11:16

Amazing. It is an absurd number but it does give some clue (in points of a percent) how much potential GDP would be generated and how much income rights holder would receive if the people of the world had the opportunity to easily buy some of this content going around.

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#628852 22-May-2012 11:25

gzt: Amazing. It is an absurd number but it does give some clue (in points of a percent) how much potential GDP would be generated and how much income rights holder would receive if the people of the world had the opportunity to easily buy some of this content going around.

How much easier does it need to be? CDs, iTunes, Digirama, etc. offer a choice between "instant gratification" or "CD quality", and they're all easy to use.
Movies and TV programmes, on the other hand, I'd agree with you.

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#628891 22-May-2012 12:16

do they take bitcoins?

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#628915 22-May-2012 13:02

Behodar:
How much easier does it need to be? CDs, iTunes, Digirama, etc. offer a choice between "instant gratification" or "CD quality", and they're all easy to use.
Movies and TV programmes, on the other hand, I'd agree with you.

Try using one of the new streaming services like Spotify and Rdio. While its a great first step, there is still an annoying amount of content that is geoblocked. In fact the first two albums I searched for were not available here.

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#630425 25-May-2012 16:20

I knew there was something wrong here...

Apparently Stuff brought back a story from 2011 - one that's been since debunked because the RIAA and Limewire settled for US$ 105 million.

From Techdirt:

And yet, for reasons that are beyond me, someone has revived the original story and lots and lots of other sites -- including plenty with real reporters who should know better -- are repeating it as fact, even to the point some are claiming that this shows the RIAA "wasn't satisfied" with the $105 million settlement. Most reports are linking back to NME as originating it, and the NME report links back to one of the many posts from March of 2011, from Computerworld, so you might think that the (nameless) NME reporter misread the date.

However, in looking around, two days before NME did its bogus report, it looks like Stuff.co.nz posted a similar story also linking to that same ComputerWorld story. Amusingly, the very first comment on that Stuff piece points out that link is to a story from 2011. And yet, Stuff has still not updated its story or posted a correction. Meanwhile, it looks like NME's (still nameless) reporter, simply copied the story from Stuff without crediting Stuff in the first place... meaning that many people are blaming NME for reviving the story, when really, NME just sucks at crediting their sources (and fact checking).

Again, stop believing everything you read in the papers...

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#631187 27-May-2012 20:36

I do not know how i feel about copyright

On one hand i can see the argument that illegal downloads are damaging especially to small artist.

On the other hand the way they are going about these copyright laws is killing the internet. I still don't like the idea of the internet, being policed, i like the free and open internet. Going on youtube and clicking on a video only to see it has being removed due to a copyright claim because it uses some backing track sucks.

I feel somewhat like the law makers are the older generation and do not really understand the internet. I agree the line has to be drawn somewhere but I also feel there should be some lee way just because of what the internet is.

Before downloading people were ripping / burning cd's, before that they were taping songs of the radio.

I am starting to dislike the US because of these copyright laws. I think the fact you can get caught for downloading in nz for downloading stuff by some us company is stupid. Uploading should be illegal not downloading.

I also laugh in the face of some books that claim this book is not to be photocopied. Why not?

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#631189 27-May-2012 20:41

I have a DVD here of a movie that's old enough to have dropped out of copyright (and the DVD was produced after the copyright expired). What's the first thing to appear on the screen once you put the disk in? A message about how evil piracy is...

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#631191 27-May-2012 20:55

Behodar: I have a DVD here of a movie that's old enough to have dropped out of copyright (and the DVD was produced after the copyright expired). What's the first thing to appear on the screen once you put the disk in? A message about how evil piracy is...

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/17275016947/anti-piracy-group-caught-pirating-song-anti-piracy-ad-corruption-scandal-erupts-response.shtml

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#631194 27-May-2012 20:58

qwerty7: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/17275016947/anti-piracy-group-caught-pirating-song-anti-piracy-ad-corruption-scandal-erupts-response.shtml

Brilliant! I wonder whether anything came of it.

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#631252 27-May-2012 23:09

qwerty7:

I agree with some of your views.

On one hand i can see the argument that illegal downloads are damaging especially to small artist.

Artists were not the people making the big noise about this.

On the other hand the way they are going about these copyright laws is killing the internet. I still don't like the idea of the internet, being policed, i like the free and open internet. Going on youtube and clicking on a video only to see it has being removed due to a copyright claim because it uses some backing track sucks.

You can add - large labels claiming stuff they do not even own and gaining a benefit from youtube advertising revenue. What is the instant penalty for that? Oh.. there isn't one.

qwerty7: I also laugh in the face of some books that claim this book is not to be photocopied. Why not?

I have seen this in textbooks. Imho this is intended to discourage academics/teachers from copying parts from one book for handout to many students. NZ copyright law allows for categories of reasonable use but there is room for interpretation both ways. Not sure about other countries. Each educational institution tends to produce it's own guidelines about what is appropriate and reasonable.

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