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Topic # 132173 11-Oct-2013 09:36
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I note Tmobile US customers will pay no more than 20 cents per minute when making a outgoing call while roaming here in New Zealand.

http://www.wirelessweek.com/news/2013/10/t-mobile-breaks-mold-unlimited-international-roaming?et_cid=3530873&et_rid=531235261&location=top

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  Reply # 913489 11-Oct-2013 10:11
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more interesting, I think, is free data roaming, but only on 2G. If you want 3G it costs $15 per day.

2G is enough for doing IM, email, and a little bit of basic browsing, so its fine for most people.

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  Reply # 913505 11-Oct-2013 10:24
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I saw ads in Malaysia for limitless 3G roaming for Malays overseas for only NZ$14 a day in some countries.

Also the EU is banning roaming charges between EU member states.

Pretty soon, NZ charges will look even more eye watering...!

I still think VF customers should be able to roam on VF networks outside their home country for normal home rates and use their bundles - what is the point of a global company other than to offer true globals service?





 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 913515 11-Oct-2013 10:34
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NonprayingMantis: more interesting, I think, is free data roaming, but only on 2G. If you want 3G it costs $15 per day.

2G is enough for doing IM, email, and a little bit of basic browsing, so its fine for most people.


Think again. 2G is already slow (under 56Kbps, high latency). Mobile data roaming works in a such a way that if you're in Auckland and want to access a service in Auckland the requests will travel through to the operator's original APN (in this case in the USA) then to the destination. This is done for billing purposes.

It also means it makes mobile data roaming slower than normal usage when a local SIM card is in play. Mobile data roaming on 2G tends to be really, really slow.





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  Reply # 913518 11-Oct-2013 10:39
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NonprayingMantis: more interesting, I think, is free data roaming, but only on 2G. If you want 3G it costs $15 per day.

2G is enough for doing IM, email, and a little bit of basic browsing, so its fine for most people.


Think again. 2G is already slow (under 56Kbps, high latency). Mobile data roaming works in a such a way that if you're in Auckland and want to access a service in Auckland the requests will travel through to the operator's original APN (in this case in the USA) then to the destination. This is done for billing purposes.

It also means it makes mobile data roaming slower than normal usage when a local SIM card is in play. Mobile data roaming on 2G tends to be really, really slow.



And no good if your roaming on Telecom  or Skinny..

Though Good on T-Mo for  fixing the voice call cost at 20c  / min. 
"Simple Choice plan customer in any of the over 100 "Simple Global" countries around the world. International roaming voice calls are getting better, too, with a new flat rate of $0.20 per minute in any of the same Simple Global countries."

Wonder if any NZ carrier would be so brave to do this..??




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  Reply # 913522 11-Oct-2013 10:41
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Damn. Was thinking I had a winner with my T-Mobile SIM from a USA trip earlier this year.

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  Reply # 913526 11-Oct-2013 10:45
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Geektastic:I still think VF customers should be able to roam on VF networks outside their home country for normal home rates and use their bundles - what is the point of a global company other than to offer true globals service?


2egrees / Telecom NZ customers can do the same on the networks they own in other countries

Have you heard of commerce comission? Not anti competitive in any way at all


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  Reply # 913529 11-Oct-2013 10:51
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NonprayingMantis: 2G is enough for doing IM, email, and a little bit of basic browsing, so its fine for most people.


I think you will find that "most people" will agree that this is a huge con, people expect devices to work as intended, not hobbled

Turn off 3G data on a mobile device and you are pretty much limited to text, - you can forget maps, or even uploading small photos, 

T-Mobile are gonna get so much stick over this , customers are gonna drive into Canada and think they have gone to the 90s, WAP lives 

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  Reply # 913536 11-Oct-2013 10:55
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indeed, opening webpages on 2G is incredibly frustrating

but probably OK for background mail synching

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  Reply # 913546 11-Oct-2013 11:38
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You have to be on at least a $50/month T-Mobile plan to use it anyway.

Here in Oz, Vodafone have plans where for $5/day extra you can use your at home calling/text/data allowance in 37 countries

Optus have also just launched $10/day unlimited calls/text and 30MB of data while roaming




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wellygary:
NonprayingMantis: 2G is enough for doing IM, email, and a little bit of basic browsing, so its fine for most people.


I think you will find that "most people" will agree that this is a huge con, people expect devices to work as intended, not hobbled

Turn off 3G data on a mobile device and you are pretty much limited to text, - you can forget maps, or even uploading small photos, 

T-Mobile are gonna get so much stick over this , customers are gonna drive into Canada and think they have gone to the 90s, WAP lives 


Having used the T-Mobile network for the last 6 days here in the US I'd go as far as saying it's the worst network I've ever used.

People in NZ doesn't realise how great all our networks are.


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  Reply # 913603 11-Oct-2013 13:17
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wellygary:
NonprayingMantis: 2G is enough for doing IM, email, and a little bit of basic browsing, so its fine for most people.


I think you will find that "most people" will agree that this is a huge con, people expect devices to work as intended, not hobbled

Turn off 3G data on a mobile device and you are pretty much limited to text, - you can forget maps, or even uploading small photos, 

T-Mobile are gonna get so much stick over this , customers are gonna drive into Canada and think they have gone to the 90s, WAP lives 


Having used the T-Mobile network for the last 6 days here in the US I'd go as far as saying it's the worst network I've ever used.

People in NZ doesn't realise how great all our networks are.




Very true..




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  Reply # 913604 11-Oct-2013 13:19
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sbiddle: Having used the T-Mobile network for the last 6 days here in the US I'd go as far as saying it's the worst network I've ever used.

People in NZ doesn't realise how great all our networks are.



Vodafone in Auckland 2 years ago was FAR worse than T-Mobile in New York was. I understand the VF network is Auckland is better now tho




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  Reply # 913606 11-Oct-2013 13:19
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More roaming regulation in the EU.

http://www.zeciroamconsult.dk/255385315

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