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#167373 11-Mar-2015 16:42
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Whats everybody think of this Kauri tree drama that is unfolding up north (up north for me).

Find a solution to save the tree or cut it down with the protester in it ??




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  #1256449 11-Mar-2015 16:44
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Both the Kauri tree thing and 1080 poision threats are a nice sideshow to the northland by election and the recent salary increase for MPs and the outrageous salary being paid to a group of well to do citizens whom are charged with finding a new flag. 

edit:  can forget the TPPA as well.

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  #1256450 11-Mar-2015 16:45
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If these people want to keep the tree, then they should show some cash to buy the property and then they can save it all they like. Otherwise GTFO off this guys property and let him enjoy it how he sees fit.




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  #1256451 11-Mar-2015 16:45
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It is time we learnt not to destroy our native flora, these trees are magnificent and we need them. To cut them down is vandalism. I would have thought that climate change would be making it very clear we need to change.




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  #1256453 11-Mar-2015 16:50
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As far as I know this is a single small kauri which is among a number of other kauri trees.
It is crowded and pulling this one down will actually improve the growth of other ones in the same area which are a lot bigger.

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  #1256455 11-Mar-2015 16:51
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I don't think resource consent should have been granted to cut down a tree that is native and protected, regardless if it's 'on my property' or not.

It seems un-kiwi to fell a Kauri...


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  #1256456 11-Mar-2015 16:52
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Goosey: Both the Kauri tree thing and 1080 poision threats are a nice sideshow to the northland by election and the recent salary increase for MPs and the outrageous salary being paid to a group of well to do citizens whom are charged with finding a new flag. 

edit:  can forget the TPPA as well.

In other news.....


OMG - Now I know why parliament has so many nut jobs in it.... because it is the 'house of representatives'




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  #1256458 11-Mar-2015 16:53
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LennonNZ: As far as I know this is a single small kauri which is among a number of other kauri trees.
It is crowded and pulling this one down will actually improve the growth of other ones in the same area which are a lot bigger.


Yep.

I'm generally opposed to any destruction of native flora but here's an interesting take from Whale Oil...http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2015/03/behind-the-tree-huggers-what-the-media-isnt-telling-you/


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  #1256459 11-Mar-2015 16:55
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i bet the same people who are protesting about the tree are the same ones who are complaining about not enough houses being built because of all the RMA/consent issues, and also whinge about house prices.

you cant win with some people

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  #1256460 11-Mar-2015 16:55
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macuser: I don't think resource consent should have been granted to cut down a tree that is native and protected, regardless if it's 'on my property' or not.

It seems un-kiwi to fell a Kauri...



Umm, it's not protected, which is why the resource consent was granted.

For my 5cents worth, people who are desperate to save the tree could crowd fund or something, and get the tree transplanted to a near by park or something where everyone can enjoy it, and the developer gets to build his house.
Everybody wins.

These guys would do it:
http://www.specimentree.co.nz/Pages/transplanting.html?gclid=CKm_7O-zn8QCFVdxvAodxTQAng




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  #1256461 11-Mar-2015 16:55
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if that was me i would be watering the tree everynight with a high pressure hose.




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#1256462 11-Mar-2015 16:56
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Jase2985: i bet the same people who are protesting about the tree are the same ones who are complaining about not enough houses being built because of all the RMA/consent issues, and also whinge about house prices.

you cant win with some people


Because there's so much god damn Kauri forest in the way of everything!!

 

Maybe we're better off chopping up all those new motorways that Auckland council always seems to find room for

 
 
 

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  #1256468 11-Mar-2015 17:04
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Umm, it's not protected, which is why the resource consent was granted."


You don't need resource consent to chop unprotected trees on your property. 

And, there are double standards going on here. Why is this guy allowed to fell this tree when the average person tries to do so and is not allowed (from personal experience). 

It makes you wonder what is going on behind the scenes, and why was len brown photographed with the developer? 

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  #1256473 11-Mar-2015 17:09
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Another point is, the tree is older than all members here and probably most if of Auckland, we do not own these, we are merely custodians and care givers and we need to pass these onto future generations. 




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  #1256476 11-Mar-2015 17:13
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KiwiNZ: Another point is, the tree is older than all members here and probably most if of Auckland, we do not own these, we are merely custodians and care givers and we need to pass these onto future generations. 


You are right, 'we' don't own it.... the developer does.




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  #1256477 11-Mar-2015 17:14
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macuser: I don't think resource consent should have been granted to cut down a tree that is native and protected, regardless if it's 'on my property' or not.

It seems un-kiwi to fell a Kauri...



Not really, kiwis cut most of them down a long time ago.

Saying trees should be protected because they are native is as illogical as saying buildings should be protected because they are old.

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