Another sad day for humanity

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sen8or

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#198761 21-Jul-2016 14:37

Political correctness or whatever you want to call it has gone too far

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11678467

"School bans clapping" in sympathy to those students who are sensitive to noise? Wow, just gobsmacked. Whats next, banning running races as its offensive to kids who can't run fast, stop teaching swimming cause some kids can't swim and it may hurt their feelings?

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#1596297 21-Jul-2016 14:50

I'm amazed for such a long article there is so little information. For all we know there could be a kid there who has lived in a war zone and suffers from ptsd and clapping brings on memories of this. We just don't know.

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#1596298 21-Jul-2016 14:57

Yeah, tis a bit weird, as in what is going to happen at recess - all the kids start clapping ?

School grounds at recess aren't exactly the quietest of places ....

Stupid is as stupid does ...

wellygary

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#1596314 21-Jul-2016 15:20

Or not

The original story was from the aust Daily telegraph, who are part of the very "click baity" news corp papers in OZ.

From the actual school,

http://www.elanorahts-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/news/misrepresentation-of-quot-clapping-ban-quot-story-in-media

"A "clapping ban" on students has not been introduced at Elanora Heights Public School.

To minimise discomfort to a teacher with a hearing disability that causes acute sensitivity to loud noise, the school has asked students to refrain from clapping and cheering at assemblies. These are held once every few weeks.

At other school occasions involving all students in the school, such as sporting events, artistic performances, smaller gatherings of students and staff, there are no restrictions on students clapping or cheering.

The school's Parents and Citizens group was consulted and support this decision. "

dejadeadnz

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#1596317 21-Jul-2016 15:24

wellygary:

Or not

The original story was from the aust Daily telegraph, who are part of the very "click baity" news corp papers in OZ.

From the actual school,

http://www.elanorahts-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/news/misrepresentation-of-quot-clapping-ban-quot-story-in-media

Look, who cares about facts? Click baits clearly work, as evidenced by the usual, unthinking reactions in this thread. Why would you look at what the school has to say?

Snap judgments are the way to go!

MikeAqua

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#1596331 21-Jul-2016 15:37

Additionally, some kids with an autism spectrum disorder can be acutely sensitive to noise.

My kids go to school with a kid who has autism and cannot tolerate loud noise.

A loud noise has him covering his ears and distressed. A very loud noise he is curled up on the ground.

Of course kids can be cruel and some kids exploit this vulnerability ...

Mike

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#1596338 21-Jul-2016 15:47

wellygary:

Or not

The original story was from the aust Daily telegraph, who are part of the very "click baity" news corp papers in OZ.

From the actual school,

http://www.elanorahts-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/news/misrepresentation-of-quot-clapping-ban-quot-story-in-media

"A "clapping ban" on students has not been introduced at Elanora Heights Public School.

To minimise discomfort to a teacher with a hearing disability that causes acute sensitivity to loud noise, the school has asked students to refrain from clapping and cheering at assemblies. These are held once every few weeks.

At other school occasions involving all students in the school, such as sporting events, artistic performances, smaller gatherings of students and staff, there are no restrictions on students clapping or cheering.

The school's Parents and Citizens group was consulted and support this decision. "

Listen, I came here with my pitchfork ready to hang someone.

The headline had all of the information I needed!

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#1596370 21-Jul-2016 15:58

facts, we don't need no stinkin facts.

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gzt

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#1596399 21-Jul-2016 16:49

Ok I thought this was another terrorist atrocity announcement.

I'm glad to see it's just a case of people being nice to each other.

If anything it's another sad day for inhumanity. Good.

DaveB

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#1596488 21-Jul-2016 20:05

wellygary:

Or not

The original story was from the aust Daily telegraph, who are part of the very "click baity" news corp papers in OZ.

From the actual school,

http://www.elanorahts-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/news/misrepresentation-of-quot-clapping-ban-quot-story-in-media

"A "clapping ban" on students has not been introduced at Elanora Heights Public School.

To minimise discomfort to a teacher with a hearing disability that causes acute sensitivity to loud noise, the school has asked students to refrain from clapping and cheering at assemblies. These are held once every few weeks.

At other school occasions involving all students in the school, such as sporting events, artistic performances, smaller gatherings of students and staff, there are no restrictions on students clapping or cheering.

The school's Parents and Citizens group was consulted and support this decision. "

Yep, political correctness gone wrong. Remove the singular teacher from the equation (once every few weeks) and let the numerous students be students and clap and cheer each other along!

Common sense has gone out of the window here. And before any of you jump on your high horses, a friend of mine has a (minor) disability and we do discuss these issues on a regular basis. He is quite clear in that he does not expect everybody to have to adapt to him. He deals with it and ensures that he fits in with the masses! That's what makes him a real winner in my eyes - and so popular within the community.

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#1596497 21-Jul-2016 20:31

heaven forbid the disabled being inconvenient.

DaveB

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#1596502 21-Jul-2016 20:41

MikeB4:

heaven forbid the disabled being inconvenient.

Has anyone in this thread suggested that????

MikeB4

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#1596505 21-Jul-2016 20:51

DaveB:

MikeB4:

heaven forbid the disabled being inconvenient.

Has anyone in this thread suggested that????

the post directly above my previous

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#1596509 21-Jul-2016 21:05

DaveB:
wellygary:

Or not

The original story was from the aust Daily telegraph, who are part of the very "click baity" news corp papers in OZ.

From the actual school,

http://www.elanorahts-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/news/misrepresentation-of-quot-clapping-ban-quot-story-in-media

"A "clapping ban" on students has not been introduced at Elanora Heights Public School.

To minimise discomfort to a teacher with a hearing disability that causes acute sensitivity to loud noise, the school has asked students to refrain from clapping and cheering at assemblies. These are held once every few weeks.

At other school occasions involving all students in the school, such as sporting events, artistic performances, smaller gatherings of students and staff, there are no restrictions on students clapping or cheering.

The school's Parents and Citizens group was consulted and support this decision. "

Yep, political correctness gone wrong. Remove the singular teacher from the equation (once every few weeks) and let the numerous students be students and clap and cheer each other along!

Common sense has gone out of the window here. And before any of you jump on your high horses, a friend of mine has a (minor) disability and we do discuss these issues on a regular basis. He is quite clear in that he does not expect everybody to have to adapt to him. He deals with it and ensures that he fits in with the masses! That's what makes him a real winner in my eyes - and so popular within the community.

Well yeah have to say that does come across a bit like you are suggesting anyone else with a disability might not be a winner if they require some consideration.

dejadeadnz

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#1596547 21-Jul-2016 22:05

DaveB:

Yep, political correctness gone wrong. Remove the singular teacher from the equation (once every few weeks) and let the numerous students be students and clap and cheer each other along!

Common sense has gone out of the window here. And before any of you jump on your high horses, a friend of mine has a (minor) disability and we do discuss these issues on a regular basis. He is quite clear in that he does not expect everybody to have to adapt to him. He deals with it and ensures that he fits in with the masses! That's what makes him a real winner in my eyes - and so popular within the community.

The paucity of thinking and sheer intellectual vacuity in your reply would be funny if the sentiments expressed weren't so awful.

You've added nothing by making some outlandish claim that this is "political correctness" (whatever this means -- useless terms like these are always bandied about in rants) gone wrong. Your friend has a minor disability? Well, that's unfortunate for him but I still don't see how this makes him the ultimate arbiter of what is the correct level of accommodation/consideration to be extended to people with disabilities in every instance. Such issues involve complex considerations of social policy, philosophical questions around freedom and equality, and cost and benefit analyses. But all this stuff, whilst important, is not the most devastating point one can make against your gratuitous comments.

The school community was, according to the school, consulted and supported this measure. You have zero moral standing on this issue -- it doesn't affect you, it's none of your business, and these people collectively (and you have no evidence to contradict the school's belief that this is supported) agreed that a minor change to an event held once every few weeks should occur, so that one person can be there participating in comfort. There are lots of ways for people to show emotions -- they have just chosen (and were asked to) adopt methods easier on someone else.

There is absolutely nothing whatsoever in this that is worthy of any busybody insulting them about. And here's another laugh -- I thought you support majoritarianism? The relevant majority have chosen to support this measure. Opps.

cr250bromo

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#1596800 22-Jul-2016 12:53

I agree, it is a sad day for humanity... so many people rely on click bait articles with very little real content, no comment from all parties involved as proof that it's "PC gone mad". ;)

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