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BlueShift

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#303409 8-Feb-2023 13:42
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Now my kids have grown up and certain other knife-wrecking relatives are no longer in my kitchen, I feel I can finally upgrade to some decent knives for general kitchening. I'm not a chef, but I do most of the cooking at home, and I appreciate a good, quality tool.

 

I was given a nice Ballerini santoku-style knife for xmas, and I'm enjoying slicing with an actual sharp and balanced blade.

 

Over the next wee while I'll obtain some more, variously sized knives - a paring knife, a utility knife, that kind of thing. I'm not a fanatic about making them all match so I'll probably find ones that just look/feel nice.

 

On top of that, there's the whole maintenance thing - Up until now a Wiltshire knife sharpener and a cheap steel have kept my cheapo knives sharp enough, but is that good enough for nicer knives? I don't know. There's a billion YT vids if I want to get lost down a very sharp rabbit hole for a few weeks. I saw a couple of recs in the Annoy thread, but I figure there's some keen slice & dicers in the GZ genpop.


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  #3033433 8-Feb-2023 13:50
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I used the Warthog sharpening system with 325, 600 and 1,000 grit hones.

 

Absolutely idiot proof sharpening (which is what I need).  I find that this system gets average knives Sashimi Sharp.





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  #3033531 8-Feb-2023 14:20
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MikeAqua:

 

I used the Warthog sharpening system with 325, 600 and 1,000 grit hones.

 

Absolutely idiot proof sharpening (which is what I need).  I find that this system gets average knives Sashimi Sharp.

 

 

Is that the Classic or the Curve?


  #3033544 8-Feb-2023 14:59
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I have the Warthog curve. It’s a decent sharpener for average knives. If you’re looking to invest is better quality knives then I would suggest looking at the classic over the curve.



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  #3033546 8-Feb-2023 15:08
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MikeAqua:

 

I used the Warthog sharpening system with 325, 600 and 1,000 grit hones.

 

Absolutely idiot proof sharpening (which is what I need).  I find that this system gets average knives Sashimi Sharp.

 

 

So much this. It's the easiest and foolproof way to get your knifes sharp. They have excellent support and idiot-proof guides. Some of the best money I spent in 2021. Classic is the way to go. Buy one cry once.

 

I have lots of nice knifes, I like 7" Santoku's the most, but recently I bought a Dalstrong as something a bit different. I've mostly leaned toward German ones

 

https://nz-dalstrong.glopalstore.com/collections/shadow-black-series/products/shadow-black-series-7-santoku-knife

 

My only complaint with this is the very end of it is relatively pointy which is a fraction uncomfortable. It's a conversation starter though.

 

 

 

If I could only use one knife ever again:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Wusthof-Culinar-7-Inch-Hollow-Santoku/dp/B00005MEHE/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pdt_img_top?ie=UTF8

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #3033585 8-Feb-2023 16:51
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I use a Worksharp Ken Onion edition bench mounted belt sharpener. It will put a serious edge on anything without spoiling temper through over-heating or anything (an eejit friend of mine once trashed a complete set of Global kitchen knives by sharpening them with an angle grinder...).

 

 

 

 






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  #3033588 8-Feb-2023 16:58
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BlueShift:

 

MikeAqua:

 

I used the Warthog sharpening system with 325, 600 and 1,000 grit hones.

 

Absolutely idiot proof sharpening (which is what I need).  I find that this system gets average knives Sashimi Sharp.

 

 

Is that the Classic or the Curve?

 

 

This one

 

Elite A4 (wooden base) Knife Sharpener - VSharp Warthog Knife Sharpeners (warthogusa.com)





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  #3033614 8-Feb-2023 18:11
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BlueShift:

 

 

 

On top of that, there's the whole maintenance thing - Up until now a Wiltshire knife sharpener and a cheap steel have kept my cheapo knives sharp enough, but is that good enough for nicer knives? I don't know. There's a billion YT vids if I want to get lost down a very sharp rabbit hole for a few weeks. I saw a couple of recs in the Annoy thread, but I figure there's some keen slice & dicers in the GZ genpop.

 

 

a steel is for soft steel knives, typical cheap knives, to straighten up the edge. with hard blades you don't need that. hard blades will stay sharp for a lot longer but are much harder to sharpen once dull.

 

i use Lansky Sharpener system. up to you as far as angles go, i tend to use different angles depending on use it gets.

 

it can be very difficult to get really good stainless knives. its a lot easier to get good knives in carbon steel. downside of course is having to look after them a bit more or they will rust.


 
 
 

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  #3033684 8-Feb-2023 20:06
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I use one of these 

 

 

and cheap warehouse / what ever knives.

 

It gets them sharp as hell.

 

I sharpen them every couple of weeks, it takes a few minutes for a couple of knives.  I have been doing this for years with the same knives.

 

Not sure why I should bother with expensive knives?





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  #3033688 8-Feb-2023 20:11
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blackjack17:

 

Not sure why I should bother with expensive knives?

 

 

Well, comparatively, I sharpen my knives every 2-3 months, they hold an edge for quite a long time.

 

But each to their own. Not all good knives need to be expensive.


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  #3033743 8-Feb-2023 21:37
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My Chicago Cutlery set has been sharp for 5+ years with minimal maintenance.

 

Using above link because https://www.chicagocutlery.com/ requires VPN access.





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  #3033776 9-Feb-2023 05:31
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We've got a pair of Furi knives and their Diamond Fingers sharpener (this set, I think - Furi Pro East/West™ Santoku and Diamond Fingers Set 3 Piece (furiglobal.com)) and they are the nicest knives I've ever used.  They get used most days on a bamboo board.  Very easy to keep an edge with five pulls through the fingers once a month.

 

For future sharpening needs, I'm curious about the rolling sharpeners that I'm seeing advertised on social media platforms.  To a layman the concept looks really good, apart from the blade pointing toward me for a period of time.  One example: Tumbler Diamond Rolling Knife Sharpener Set – Tumbler Rolling Knife Sharpener (tumblerware.com) 





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  #3033834 9-Feb-2023 09:54
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I have a hand forged Sukenari Japanese knife made from ZDP189 steel.

I don’t use it daily but it remains razor sharp after 4 years. When it needs sharpening I will return it for hand sharpening by Prochef in Auckland. It was too expensive for me to mess with!





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  #3033862 9-Feb-2023 10:47
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I do almost all my cutting with a cheap cleaver.  I keep it quite sharp.

 

Very easy to use, once I got the hang of it.

 

They are actually very good for even fine slicing like herbs, soft tomatoes or wafer thin shallots.

 

The main exception to this is fish.  I have dedicated knives for fish.  One for filleting, and one for skinning and boning.  If I'm breaking big fish dow into steaks (e.g. Kingi) the I just use my cleaver.  Sashimi, I also have dedicated knife for.





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  #3034165 9-Feb-2023 17:16
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Dynamic:

 

For future sharpening needs, I'm curious about the rolling sharpeners that I'm seeing advertised on social media platforms.  To a layman the concept looks really good, apart from the blade pointing toward me for a period of time.  One example: Tumbler Diamond Rolling Knife Sharpener Set – Tumbler Rolling Knife Sharpener (tumblerware.com) 

 

 

interesting idea, looks cool but the flaws are easy to see.

 

it requires a good flat stable surface for it to roll on and it grinds in both directions which is an absolute no-no.


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  #3034166 9-Feb-2023 17:19
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project farm has some good reviews of sharpeners. https://youtu.be/KBINMUdlJ14


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