Ah, I just clicked that the difference is the GST which Amazon adds to total - whereas Chrono24 state ”Customs duty and import taxes may be incurred in addition to the price listed above.”

Which I suspect means they will.

I don't think GST gets added on at the border unless you're over $1000.  So, if the store doesn't pay the NZ GST, it's effectively GST free.  I've experienced this with several smaller offshore retailers - it's only the big ones like Amazon that pay attention to the NZ tax law change that Labour introduced a few years ago

Chrono24 is fine, it's just like buying from a marketplace though DYOR on the seller and everything should be fine.

shk292:

 

I don't think GST gets added on at the border unless you're over $1000.  So, if the store doesn't pay the NZ GST, it's effectively GST free.  I've experienced this with several smaller offshore retailers - it's only the big ones like Amazon that pay attention to the NZ tax law change that Labour introduced a few years ago

 

Less than $1000 is counted as "low-value goods". Over $1000 "import fees" apply (whatever that is).

Aliexpress:

From 1 Dec 2019, New Zealand goods and services tax (GST) 15% will apply to each item valued at NZ$ 1000 or less, and AliExpress is required by law to collect such GST and remit to New Zealand Taxation Office.

Amazon:

Amazon is required to calculate, collect, and remit 15% New Zealand Goods and Services Tax (GST) on low-value goods (LVG), items with a value of $1,000 NZD or less, classified as taxable for New Zealand GST purposes.

So you might get pinged extra at Customs if this site doesn't collect GST on behalf of NZ. I think you also get extra added as Customs fees as well?

robjg63:

Less than $1000 is counted as "low-value goods". Over $1000 "import fees" apply (whatever that is).

Aliexpress:

From 1 Dec 2019, New Zealand goods and services tax (GST) 15% will apply to each item valued at NZ$ 1000 or less, and AliExpress is required by law to collect such GST and remit to New Zealand Taxation Office.

Amazon:

Amazon is required to calculate, collect, and remit 15% New Zealand Goods and Services Tax (GST) on low-value goods (LVG), items with a value of $1,000 NZD or less, classified as taxable for New Zealand GST purposes.

So you might get pinged extra at Customs if this site doesn't collect GST on behalf of NZ. I think you also get extra added as Customs fees as well?

How much are you saving?  Is it that much that it's worth gambling on not having any warranty or CGA cover?  

Entirely a personal decision, it's just something I always think about before pulling the trigger on overseas purchases.    

shk292: No, my understanding is that if the merchant ignores the requirement to charge GST, and it's under $1000, then there is no charge at the border. That's why it is better to use slightly more obscure overseas sellers

The merchant/market place is only required to register and collect GST if they meet the registration threshold which is $60,000 per IRD:

As a merchant selling directly to the customer, include the following when determining if your supplies meet the NZ$60,000 registration threshold:

• low-value goods sold directly to consumers in New Zealand through your website, by phone or mail order
• amounts paid by the consumer for services such as delivery and insurance
• any other sales that GST applies to, such as online services or digital products sold to New Zealand consumers.

Do not include:

• high-value goods
• supplies to New Zealand GST-registered businesses.

So they're not ignoring it in a sense that if they sell less than $60,000 of goods to NZ per year then they don't need to register for it, and if the goods are worth more than $1,000 that'll get stopped for collection at customs anyway

dfnt:

 

The merchant/market place is only required to register and collect GST if they meet the registration threshold which is $60,000 per IRD:

 

Registration threshold

 

As a merchant selling directly to the customer, include the following when determining if your supplies meet the NZ$60,000 registration threshold:

 

• low-value goods sold directly to consumers in New Zealand through your website, by phone or mail order
• amounts paid by the consumer for services such as delivery and insurance
• any other sales that GST applies to, such as online services or digital products sold to New Zealand consumers.

Do not include:

 

• high-value goods
• supplies to New Zealand GST-registered businesses.

So they're not ignoring it in a sense that if they sell less than $60,000 of goods to NZ per year then they don't need to register for it, and if the goods are worth more than $1,000 that'll get stopped for collection at customs anyway

 

Exactly right - and it also raises the question "what is NZ IRD going to do if Bob's watch shop in UK ignores the legislation anyway?"

The trick is to find a retailer that is willing to export without charging local VAT/GST (which is quite legitimate), has reasonable shipping rates, and is under the 60K threshold (or doesn't care).  In my experience there are a few of these around.

dafman:

 

I’m looking at getting a Japanese Casio G Shock from Chrono24.co.nz as is less expensive than Amazon US.

 

Anyone with any first hand experience with this site?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Ah which one? I'd like the latest Japanese Rangeman. I already have a black and red one. The yellow looks lovely!