Sound of Freedom backer charged with kidnapping

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#306579 5-Aug-2023 09:45

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_of_Freedom_(film)

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sound-freedom-funder-fabian-marta-165000513.html

Has anyone been following the story with this movie? I believe the director or one of its stars (or both) have ties to QAnon, however one of their funders was recently charged with kidnapping a young child.

Kinda makes a mockery of the message this film is trying to get across (to me,anyway).

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#3112103 5-Aug-2023 17:13

The Q Anon stupid is stupid.

People who believe in a cabal that controls a New World Order, that liberals, Holywood and billionaires are drinking kids' blood and that Trump is the only one that can save the world are idiots.

Add to that the whole flat Earth, anti-covid vaccine and 5G...

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#3112104 5-Aug-2023 17:15

Ah. I forgot to mention. Also, everyone shouting against drag queens because they are trying to indoctrinate our children, when in fact, all those Q Anon people being arrested for kid assault makes a mockery of their logic.

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#3112120 5-Aug-2023 18:39

freitasm:

The Q Anon stupid is stupid.

People who believe in a cabal that controls a New World Order, that liberals, Holywood and billionaires are drinking kids' blood and that Trump is the only one that can save the world are idiots.

Add to that the whole flat Earth, anti-covid vaccine and 5G...

I do want to point out that Vodafone black helicopter thing is completely legit and verified.

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#3112123 5-Aug-2023 18:44

quickymart:
Kinda makes a mockery of the message this film is trying to get across (to me,anyway).

In that same way that holier-than-thou televangelists seem to keep getting caught committing adultery, or embezzlement, or interspecies erotica, or whatever. Luckily they can say they were tempted by Satan and it's all his fault and Satan, ever the gentleman, never responds to these accusations. Oh, and you need to give the televangelist even more money to help them fight off the devil's evil influence. Gimme money, gimme green...

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#3112150 5-Aug-2023 20:39

Then there is Gloriavale ?

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#3112186 6-Aug-2023 07:59

freitasm:

Ah. I forgot to mention. Also, everyone shouting against drag queens because they are trying to indoctrinate our children, when in fact, all those Q Anon people being arrested for kid assault makes a mockery of their logic.

I know, right? How long until he starts portraying himself as "the victim" in all of this and wants donations to help his legal fund, and blah blah blah...just like that Graham Philip moron 🙄

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#3121450 28-Aug-2023 22:40

quickymart:

freitasm:

Ah. I forgot to mention. Also, everyone shouting against drag queens because they are trying to indoctrinate our children, when in fact, all those Q Anon people being arrested for kid assault makes a mockery of their logic.

I know, right? How long until he starts portraying himself as "the victim" in all of this and wants donations to help his legal fund, and blah blah blah...just like that Graham Philip moron 🙄

There's a strong whiff of DARVO (Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim/Offender) deflectionism with people like those. It ranges all the way from domestic abusers to the man in the Kremlin.

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#3124900 8-Sep-2023 08:22

I understand that despite a fairly vocal online campaign to get this propaganda shown here, most cinemas are actually seeing very low numbers of attendees.

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#3125132 8-Sep-2023 19:09

quickymart:

I understand that despite a fairly vocal online campaign to get this propaganda shown here, most cinemas are actually seeing very low numbers of attendees.

We can let them p*ss into the wind.

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#3125728 11-Sep-2023 07:56

neb:
quickymart:

Kinda makes a mockery of the message this film is trying to get across (to me,anyway).

In that same way that holier-than-thou televangelists seem to keep getting caught committing adultery, or embezzlement, or interspecies erotica, or whatever. Luckily they can say they were tempted by Satan and it's all his fault and Satan, ever the gentleman, never responds to these accusations. Oh, and you need to give the televangelist even more money to help them fight off the devil's evil influence. Gimme money, gimme green...

Luke 18:25 "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God"

So you need to ask yourself, how can any of the tele-evangelists lead anyone to heaven when they themselves can not go there.

Religion is the only legal scam in the world, you can say what you like, you can promise what you like, you can grift as much money as you like and there is zero responsibility, liability, or need to tell the truth.

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#3125808 11-Sep-2023 08:56

quickymart:

I understand that despite a fairly vocal online campaign to get this propaganda shown here, most cinemas are actually seeing very low numbers of attendees.

I have seen the film in a cinema here; it was sold out; but that was also during the first few days.

I don't think the film could be called "propaganda"; there certainly wasn't any attempt to thrust a message down my throat, and there was no attempt to compel me to sign up or join anything.

It told a story, the film was well made; perhaps watch it with an open mind if/when it drops on a streaming platform.

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#3125906 11-Sep-2023 11:17

I think the alleged connection between the lead actor and QAnon puts off some people though. One of the backers being arrested for doing exactly what is portrayed in the film is a pretty poor look, though (see above).

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#3126065 11-Sep-2023 14:29

quickymart: I think the alleged connection between the lead actor and QAnon puts off some people though.

Sure, I can see that - I wasn't aware of that connection myself, tbh.

quickymart: One of the backers being arrested for doing exactly what is portrayed in the film is a pretty poor look, though (see above).

https://www.newsweek.com/sound-freedom-funder-fabian-marta-arrest-child-kidnapping-1817498

"one of thousands of patrons of the crowdfunded anti-child trafficking film Sound of Freedom" - so, apparently there was over $5M raised by crowdfunding, and this person is only one of over six thousand individual contributors; whose money was used to help put the movie into theatres, and not actually make said movie, from what I understand - yes, totally agree, not a good look, but perhaps a stretch to link the film as being "inherently bad" because of this connection...

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#3126068 11-Sep-2023 14:53

jamesrt:

I have seen the film in a cinema here; it was sold out; but that was also during the first few days.

I don't think the film could be called "propaganda"; there certainly wasn't any attempt to thrust a message down my throat, and there was no attempt to compel me to sign up or join anything.

It told a story, the film was well made; perhaps watch it with an open mind if/when it drops on a streaming platform.

I'm just curious, does the film involve conspiracies about why the children are being trafficked?

Have read a lot of conflicting stories. It seems it's just a movie about child trafficking and the efforts of an organisation to save kids.

Do they refer to QAnon conspiracies at all? Or are the objections to the film just based around the fact that the lead star is (as I understand) associated with this?

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#3126070 11-Sep-2023 14:55

The latter is my understanding:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Caviezel

In 2021, Caviezel endorsed elements of the QAnon theory during a remote appearance at the "Health and Freedom Conference" at Rhema Bible Training College in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. The appearance was to promote the film Sound of Freedom, centering on anti-human trafficking activist Tim Ballard. Ballard's activism has been alleged to correspond to the rise of QAnon, though he denies any connection to the movement. Caviezel mentioned that Ballard was supposed to be appearing at the conference but was "saving victims of trafficking" who were victims of "adrenochroming", a fictional practice whose existence is suggested by QAnon adherents. Caviezel suggested he had seen evidence of children being subjected to the practice. The event included appearances by other QAnon promoters, such as L. Lin Wood and Michael Flynn.

Also from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Ballard

Ballard and supporters of O.U.R. have been accused of promoting the QAnon conspiracy theory as early as 2020. In July 2023, the month Sound of Freedom was released, Ballard stated that this claim is not true and is being used to discredit him and the film. In an interview with Jordan Peterson the same month, Ballard claimed to have recently raided a West African baby factory, where children were sold for organ harvesting and Satanic ritual abuse. This claim was asserted by Insider to be echoing of a QAnon theory.

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