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johno1234

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#317444 15-Oct-2024 19:25
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There are really no words for how bad TV1 news is these days.

A lead item this evening, which went on and on, was their own commissioned poll on whether Chris Luxon is “in touch” and whether Chris Hipkins should stay as Labour leader. Other stuff such as some terrible traffic accidents and Gaza were left to a brief afterthought in a later segment.

A stupid poll is not news and the way Maiki Sherman went on and on presenting her opinions as fact were pure cringe.

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  #3297831 15-Oct-2024 19:27
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Stuff tv3 is just as bad , we used to have good journalism what happened

 
 
 

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  #3297905 15-Oct-2024 20:35
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The quality of NZ news sites and coverage has been going down the drain for years. I've "switched off" to most of it to be honest. Haven't watched the evening news for I don't know how long. Probably before my kids were born and they're teenagers.

 

They complain about "Google" taking all their news but honestly if they cant present in a decent way you cant blame "Google" for making the news people actually want to read and hear more accessible to their needs.   Quotes used because its really not _just_ Google and they're shifting the blame to a perceived villain rather than looking inwardly as to why viewership is in decline.


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  #3297906 15-Oct-2024 20:41
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If you don't like the news outlets you're using then find better ones. I find RNZ and Newsroom really good. 




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  #3297911 15-Oct-2024 21:26
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It's 2024, TVNZ is an anachronistic legacy of a time gone by that's only being propped up by our taxpayer dollars and needs to be allowed to die. 





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  #3297912 15-Oct-2024 21:28
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RNZ and Chris Lynch.


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  #3297913 15-Oct-2024 21:34
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I agree. I've often found when watching TV1 or TV3 news, and the anchor or reporter is droning on about this or that, I find myself silently inserting "in my opinion" at the end of almost every sentence I hear them say. Try it - it's actually quite fun. The fact that in almost every case, adding those three extra words doesn't seem out of place, speaks volumes.

 

Our news is not necessarily about facts anymore, it's about the newsreader/journalist/editor's opinion half the time.


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  #3297918 15-Oct-2024 21:58
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k1w1k1d:

RNZ and Chris Lynch.



The latter gets his news from social media tags now. Hardly a better source.

And regurgitation rather than aggregation.

There was a missing child. He copy pasted the text from official police post (Of which original source comments were restricted.) post interaction boosting.
Left his open to comment, naturally.

And when the police revoked the post because he was located. Because he copied it, Simply.closed his own post from comments and left it live.

So it was wrong. Out dated And noone could point it out.

Not isolated. At the very least if you're going to call yourself one, part of it means being minute accurate.



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  #3297926 15-Oct-2024 23:24
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Is it just me or is the majority of the 6pm bulletin pre-recorded now?


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  #3297928 15-Oct-2024 23:55
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It was bizarre that they showed the Labour leader eating sausage rolls in almost every shot they had of him, going back several years. It was almost as though it was someones job to try and find all the footage of him eating sausage rolls. It is a really odd news program now. 


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  #3297930 16-Oct-2024 06:49
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It’s not the journalists or presenters at fault here…

 

it’s the news editors/bosses that are providing the direction of content. It’s these people who are being influenced by consultants and data that apparently tell them what viewers and listeners want to hear.   It’s all about the consumer reaction and engagement…..which they reckon provides ratings on listener/viewership which drives the propaganda their sales team use to try and get more advertising revenue.

 

 

 

the news bosses don’t  care about anything else but ratings…..and those people who like trash talk type news are the ones giving them the false impressions because they react more on socials as opposed to the rest of us who don’t take to the keyboards…

 

 

 

 


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  #3297935 16-Oct-2024 07:49
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Wheelbarrow01:

 

I agree. I've often found when watching TV1 or TV3 news, and the anchor or reporter is droning on about this or that, I find myself silently inserting "in my opinion" at the end of almost every sentence I hear them say. Try it - it's actually quite fun. The fact that in almost every case, adding those three extra words doesn't seem out of place, speaks volumes.

 

Our news is not necessarily about facts anymore, it's about the newsreader/journalist/editor's opinion half the time.

 

 

Not TVNZ, but I saw a "professional" article a couple of months ago that opened with something like "XYZ's horrible policy about ABC has been implemented [blah blah blah]" and the very first comment was "Well, now I know what the reporter thinks about the policy. The problem is, I shouldn't."


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  #3297940 16-Oct-2024 08:03
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alasta:

If you don't like the news outlets you're using then find better ones. I find RNZ and Newsroom really good. 



RNZ = Red Radio. Always pushing the left agenda.




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Goosey:

 

It’s not the journalists or presenters at fault here…

 

it’s the news editors/bosses that are providing the direction of content. It’s these people who are being influenced by consultants and data that apparently tell them what viewers and listeners want to hear.   It’s all about the consumer reaction and engagement…..which they reckon provides ratings on listener/viewership which drives the propaganda their sales team use to try and get more advertising revenue.

 

 

 

the news bosses don’t  care about anything else but ratings…..and those people who like trash talk type news are the ones giving them the false impressions because they react more on socials as opposed to the rest of us who don’t take to the keyboards…

 

 

That implies that lots of people like the drivel they present? That's a worry. Alternatively they might be interviewing themselves and in their ego/hubris are giving us what they think we want.

 

 


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  #3297984 16-Oct-2024 10:24
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Not interested in the views of the news readers, just want the news. Having grown up in a time where news readers and journalists were required to report news without displaying bias, disgust or opinion by raising eyebrows, smirking, nodding or eye rolling…I don’t care about their opinions and want the world or local news reported as it is, not cherry picked portions. I like to make my own assumptions on the rights or wrongs of a reported situation and not be obviously led by the inflection in the voice of the reporter or their body language.

 

Am fortunate to have access to other languages which gives me access to some serious news and stories that barely enter the now dumbed down NZ mainstream where the only thing worth watching is the weather forecast and even that is often irritating for a number of reasons. 

 

Some sincere, cold, unbiased reporting would be most welcome. 


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  #3297989 16-Oct-2024 10:37
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For those of you complaining, are you paying a subscription fee or are you expecting a quality product for free? 


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