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#318846 26-Feb-2025 12:56

https://www.mobileworldlive.com/telstra/australia-pushes-universal-mobile-coverage/?ID=a6g1r000000ymoCAAQ&JobID=2215913&utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MWL_20250225&utm_content=https%3a%2f%2fwww.mobileworldlive.com%2ftelstra%2faustralia-pushes-universal-mobile-coverage%2f

Australian govt wants 100 percent mobile coverage.

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#3348053 26-Feb-2025 13:11

Australian government wants 100 percent mobile coverage through Starlink.

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#3348062 26-Feb-2025 13:42

SaltyNZ:

Australian government wants 100 percent mobile coverage through Starlink.

Pretty much as how I read it...

But as always the magic is in "who pays"

Are they going to mandate all cellular providers to include "out back" coverage in all plans thus upping the cost of BAU
or are the Aussie Taxpayers gonna stump up and slide some cash to the Telcos.

Although do remember there's an election in a couple of months in OZ,

and parties will promise heaven and earth to get your tick in their box...

Whether such policies survive post election senate wrangling with independents is yet to be seen...

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#3348065 26-Feb-2025 13:58

SaltyNZ:

Australian government wants 100 percent mobile coverage through Starlink.

Correct I should have said Starlink.

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#3348066 26-Feb-2025 14:00

Is this the same government that also made a complete shambles of the NBN roll out?

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#3348069 26-Feb-2025 14:19

Senecio:

Is this the same government that also made a complete shambles of the NBN roll out?

No. No , That was a DIFFERENT Government, we're better than them... trust us...

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#3348076 26-Feb-2025 14:35

Senecio:

Is this the same government that also made a complete shambles of the NBN roll out?

No, it's the other lot.

Not that you'd notice, really: both sides are equally clueless on technology matters

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#3348091 26-Feb-2025 16:12

wellygary: Although do remember there's an election in a couple of months in OZ,

and parties will promise heaven and earth to get your tick in their box...

With their recent electoral "reforms" there's effectively only two parties left, so it's just A or B, and they can always forget about this promise the minute they're elected, too expensive, too hard, the other side proposed it not us, etc.

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#3348159 26-Feb-2025 18:57

Senecio:

Is this the same government that also made a complete shambles of the NBN roll out?

The previous Labor govt had FTTP planned (with 1gb/s), then when they got booted out, the libs then changed it to FTTC as it was considerably cheaper. Every time I’m there, I laugh at how much of a joke it is. People who have HFC there sre the lucky ones.

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#3348161 26-Feb-2025 19:14

Aucklandjafa:

The previous Labor govt had FTTP planned (with 1gb/s), then when they got booted out, the libs then changed it to FTTC as it was considerably cheaper. Every time I’m there, I laugh at how much of a joke it is. People who have HFC there sre the lucky ones.

No they're not, as they cant get the FTTP upgrade like the crap connection people can. Still not available everywhere and they still act like upload bandwidth is a scarce resource to have matching plans between HFC and real fibre but it is rapidly improving over there.

They will get there in the end, years behind NZ. They did some things right tho, like forced copper withdrawl a lot faster than NZ lets people drag it on for.

I think 100% coverage is a great idea. And if it costs the telcos a lot to provide it thru starlink to areas they decide are not worth building in, then also good as that will incentivize them to build there own sites in those locations.

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#3348237 27-Feb-2025 07:45

richms:

I think 100% coverage is a great idea. And if it costs the telcos a lot to provide it thru starlink to areas they decide are not worth building in, then also good as that will incentivize them to build there own sites in those locations.

Be careful what you wish for though. Pre-COVID an easy site on the side of the road in suburbia could easily cost more than $300K just for the actual installation, let alone all the pre-work before you get to that point. Someone - and by 'someone' I mean 'the subscribers' have to pay for those sites out in the middle of nowhere.

Satellite is the best option. Whether a satellite service owned by Elon Musk is the best satellite is debatable. But the cost of 100% terrestrial is ridiculous. Nobody would do it because nobody could pay for it. There's a reason RCG is a three-way joint venture.

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#3348238 27-Feb-2025 07:47

OK, I take that back - Telstra might do it as they have a history of getting whatever they want from the government, so they would probably be able to get the government to pay for it. Which is just "the subscribers" with extra steps.

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#3348273 27-Feb-2025 08:40

SaltyNZ:

OK, I take that back - Telstra might do it as they have a history of getting whatever they want from the government, so they would probably be able to get the government to pay for it. Which is just "the subscribers" with extra steps.

Same as the hole country will not be connected with Hi band 5g. By the way will any mobile networks here in NZ upgrade to 5G stand alone.

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#3348290 27-Feb-2025 09:07

ajw:

By the way will any mobile networks here in NZ upgrade to 5G stand alone.

Sure, eventually. When? No idea.

The kinds of services that require a 5G SA network don't really seem to have much interest as far as I can see. There's the container port building a private 5GC but other than that I don't hear much clamour.

For you, normal subscriber with a phone, there is zero practical difference between 5G NSA and 5G SA.

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