Age Old VHS Question

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hamisht

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#35559 12-Jun-2009 10:07

So i've been trying all different methods to transfer an old VHS of mine, to DVD before it finally craps out (not available on dvd). the copy protection is driving me nuts, as I dont want to pay $145 for a 'video stabilizer' to transfer one VHS ;)

I tried using a antenna booster, thinking that would 'slighty increase the frequency' to remove the CP. That didnt work.

Has anyone tried a Wireless Video sender to remove CP? My brother has one, but before I go out to his place to borrow it, thought i would check here to see if anyone has tried it.

Also tried this method: VCR to DV Camera to Panny DVD Recorder via DV cable (still picked up CP)

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Zippity

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#224283 12-Jun-2009 10:38

Where are you located?

If you are anywhere near the Capital, PM me as I will be only too happy to transfer/burn the DVD for you.

hamisht

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#224288 12-Jun-2009 10:49

im in Whangarei, top of the north island mate! thanks for that offer though! I paid someone to do it for a previous VHS, but they growled at me because it was a shop bought movie!

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Zippity

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#224291 12-Jun-2009 11:07

If you want to pay the postage, I'll do it for free

hamisht

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#224292 12-Jun-2009 11:10

Thanks, but im trying to do this totally no-cost ;). I did it via my notebook (Windows Movie Maker, DVD Forger), but still looking to try and get it done via the panny recorder

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Zippity

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#224309 12-Jun-2009 12:16

then have a look at videohelp.com

hamisht

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#224349 12-Jun-2009 13:39

yeah they are a great site, but majority of the threads redirect me to a expensive Video Stabilizer.

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Zippity

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#224360 12-Jun-2009 14:18

Something doesn't make sense here.

Why do you need a video stabilizer? Is the quality of the VHS that bad?

When I copy from a VHS tape, I simply play the tape in my VCR through my WinFast TV capture card to my HDD.

I then convert the video file and burn the DVD using a "paid for" programme.
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#224375 12-Jun-2009 14:53

I think hes seeing Macrovision kicking in on the tape - which usually means its a purchased commercial video.
Thats probably why people are saying to use a stabilizer, most likely bypasses the copy protection.

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xrajux

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#224380 12-Jun-2009 15:08

can't you just use av out on the vhs player and use the av in for a dvd recorder and record it on dvd in real-time, i know its a long process but if it saves u $145 per VHS then ehy not..........

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#224383 12-Jun-2009 15:12

xrajux: can't you just use av out on the vhs player and use the av in for a dvd recorder and record it on dvd in real-time, i know its a long process but if it saves u $145 per VHS then ehy not..........

This won't get around the copy protection issue . . .

hamisht

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#224414 12-Jun-2009 16:26

xrajux: can't you just use av out on the vhs player and use the av in for a dvd recorder and record it on dvd in real-time, i know its a long process but if it saves u $145 per VHS then ehy not..........

Yeah thats a direct connection which doesnt remove copy protection

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hamisht

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#224415 12-Jun-2009 16:27

xpd: I think hes seeing Macrovision kicking in on the tape - which usually means its a purchased commercial video.

Thats probably why people are saying to use a stabilizer, most likely bypasses the copy protection.

Indeed, its a video I purchased on first release several years ago, which still isnt out on DVD, and 99.9% sure it never will be.

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#224507 12-Jun-2009 22:16

macrovision kicked in, in the early 90s.

as long as your playback vcr is one from before then, then your dvd recorder should record fine i think?

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#224547 13-Jun-2009 04:23

There is nothing you can do other then a VBI remover that will allow a dvd recorder to record it since the pulses in the blanking dont have to be overbright to be detected by the encoder in the dvd-r.

Forget trying wireless senders and nonsense - they will just stuff the picture up more. If it gets to the point that the macrovision is gone, then you are well past having a usable image.

a PC is the easiest way to do what you are looking for IME.

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#224922 14-Jun-2009 16:08

Macrovision came out in the early 80's I believe, pre-recorded VHS tapes had an extra encoding telling the compatible machine to output wildly swinging signals to avoid dubbing then the AGC on the recording unit would make the image very poor.

Some old VHS recorders did not have the macrovision and could output clean signal, my old Sansui, National and recently bought ancient Mitsubishi are void of any trace of it.

Both my DVD players, Mustek DVD 51l and Mizuda DVD 331k have macrovision-free outputs.

There was an assembled kit one on trademe a few weeks ago, probably long gone.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=215917918

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=223623385

Someone offered to do it for free, i'd take them up on the offer as it'll either be expensive or impossible for such a one-off. my gear is in storage the the mitsubishi is awaiting some plastic grease for the mechanisms.