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Topic # 9595 29-Sep-2006 09:29
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The Commerce Commission today confirmed its preliminary decision in June that Telecom and Vodafone should exchange local calls at no charge to either company.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10403399




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Reply # 47139 29-Sep-2006 09:30
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Great news first national home line service from another provider

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  Reply # 47140 29-Sep-2006 09:31
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What about sms charges between companies?

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Reply # 47142 29-Sep-2006 09:34
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Is SMS voice calls read the article

Clearly SMS don't travel through a PSTN

They already have a commerical agreement for two way SMS why does the comcom have to look into this??

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Reply # 47143 29-Sep-2006 09:46
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Posted on Geekzone a day before the papers : http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=6704. This is what enables Vodafone NZ to provide a new service, as explained in the article.


 





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  Reply # 47147 29-Sep-2006 12:15
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I heard some rumors the other day that Telecom are frantically working on the same service with the intention of bring it to market before Vodafone. We're obviously not going to get any Telecom staff comment on this but it's certainly going to be very interesting times ahead with both companies offering the same service.

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  Reply # 47153 29-Sep-2006 13:17
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Look at what BT in the UK are doing, Telecom will follow that model.

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  Reply # 47154 29-Sep-2006 13:35
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I believe Telecom's focus will be WiFi/CDMA phones with their VoIP NGN offering you a single number that will use WiFi at home and CDMA outside the house. Telecom still want people to have an ADSL connection to maintain the revenue from their copper whereas Vodafone want people to get rid of that copper.


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Reply # 47164 29-Sep-2006 18:49
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sbiddle: I believe Telecom's focus will be WiFi/CDMA phones with their VoIP NGN offering you a single number that will use WiFi at home and CDMA outside the house. Telecom still want people to have an ADSL connection to maintain the revenue from their copper whereas Vodafone want people to get rid of that copper.



Doing it this way would also eliminate the need to monitor the location of the user's cellular handset to determine whether they are within their own physical premises or not. I suspect that this will prove to be a logistical nightmare for Vodafone.

In any case, I applaud Vodafone for pursuing the opportunity to create more competitive pressure, but I'm still a bit unsure about the benefits of this service. How many people will actually experience lower costs as a result?

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Reply # 47165 29-Sep-2006 18:58
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This is great news more choice, more options and if in Tauranga even more choice as Im sure Telstra will follow suite as well.

Wifi, ADSL local number being mobile thank you Vodafone for waking up the sleeping giant.

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  Reply # 47168 29-Sep-2006 20:08
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alasta:
Doing it this way would also eliminate the need to monitor the location of the user's cellular handset to determine whether they are within their own physical premises or not. I suspect that this will prove to be a logistical nightmare for Vodafone.

In any case, I applaud Vodafone for pursuing the opportunity to create more competitive pressure, but I'm still a bit unsure about the benefits of this service. How many people will actually experience lower costs as a result?


Surely most people will experience lower costs? Considering virtually everybody has both a cellphone and landline if you eliminate the Telecom or TCL line rental cost and replace it with a mobile plan that has a base cost of around $40 offering the same features + the added features of a mobile then most people will be saving the cost of the line rental per month?


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  Reply # 47171 29-Sep-2006 20:40
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sbiddle: I believe Telecom's focus will be WiFi/CDMA phones with their VoIP NGN offering you a single number that will use WiFi at home and CDMA outside the house. Telecom still want people to have an ADSL connection to maintain the revenue from their copper whereas Vodafone want people to get rid of that copper.



Doing it this way would also eliminate the need to monitor the location of the user's cellular handset to determine whether they are within their own physical premises or not. I suspect that this will prove to be a logistical nightmare for Vodafone.

In any case, I applaud Vodafone for pursuing the opportunity to create more competitive pressure, but I'm still a bit unsure about the benefits of this service. How many people will actually experience lower costs as a result?


its not a difficult process at all

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  Reply # 47174 29-Sep-2006 20:56
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Interesting whats happening here as mentioned in news here that other Vodafone opcos like Germany etc are going down the whole communication path providing ADSl, Cellular and home services and offering a whole package.

As Vodafone have aggrements with the likes of Orcon perhaps we could see a tie up there perhaps the "one bill" with services provided by other players so Vodafone could offer ADSL, Mobile Broadband and Mobile Calls out of your home zone.

As you cant really replace your home PC on 3G just yet with ADSL getting faster would make sense to have a package and cater to a wider consumer base.




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  Reply # 47175 29-Sep-2006 20:57
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sbiddle: Surely most people will experience lower costs? Considering virtually everybody has both a cellphone and landline if you eliminate the Telecom or TCL line rental cost and replace it with a mobile plan that has a base cost of around $40 offering the same features + the added features of a mobile then most people will be saving the cost of the line rental per month?


I would have thought that for most people a landline/mobile combo would work out to cost about the same as exclusively using one of the existing Vodafone plans. For example, Choose 60 only costs $40 per month and Choose 20 + off peak calling is only $35.

It may be that people make far more personal phone calls that I realised, but I suspect that people who have a landline and a mobile do so only because of a misguided perception that they need both (i.e. "a mobile phone is only useful for emergencies"). This may deter people from using Vodafone's new service, although Vodafone's marketing department is clever enough that they may be able to turn this around.

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alasta: In any case, I applaud Vodafone for pursuing the opportunity to create more competitive pressure, but I'm still a bit unsure about the benefits of this service. How many people will actually experience lower costs as a result?


Like any other business Voda are only after your money, they are not doing this out of love or to do you any favours. They have stated that they want to take a much larger chunk of the telecommunications market...In other words they want more of your money which as we all know the profit from this money is paid to the UK parent.





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Reply # 47188 30-Sep-2006 10:59
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Jama: Like any other business Voda are only after your money, they are not doing this out of love or to do you any favours. They have stated that they want to take a much larger chunk of the telecommunications market...In other words they want more of your money which as we all know the profit from this money is paid to the UK parent.


Of course. Everything that Vodafone does is done with the end goal of returning profits to their investors, and I'm not naive enough to believe otherwise. However, the fact remains that competition is a positive thing, because if a profit-driven organisation can profitably deliver a service for a lower price than the imcumbent, then they will do so. That's a win-win for their customers and their shareholders.

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