What kind of broadband deals are you getting at the moment?

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nzkc

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#3369249 30-Apr-2025 18:21

freitasm:

Then I look on their website, and they have a fibre plan that costs only $5 more than "wireless broadband". If they want to offer reliability, why not that instead?

People in New Zealand, by and large, are cheap. Price is the only metric they look at. And so wireless broadband gets a foot in in areas where fibre is available. Those who understand the advtanages of fibre (like people here) would not entertain wireless broadband when fibre is also an option.

Edit: I also assume the margin on Wireless Broadband is higher so companies would prefer you to switch too.

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#3369252 30-Apr-2025 19:04

nzkc:

freitasm:

Then I look on their website, and they have a fibre plan that costs only $5 more than "wireless broadband". If they want to offer reliability, why not that instead?

People in New Zealand, by and large, are cheap. Price is the only metric they look at. And so wireless broadband gets a foot in in areas where fibre is available. Those who understand the advtanages of fibre (like people here) would not entertain wireless broadband when fibre is also an option.

Edit: I also assume the margin on Wireless Broadband is higher so companies would prefer you to switch too.

NZers tend to overpay for many things compared to what they pay in many other countries, due to the lack of competition. Eg food, building materials and houses. And our incomes are relatively low. Fibre does seem to be largely a commodity service.
I am not sure if Fibre pricing over the last decade is increasing by more than inflation or not.

everettpsycho

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#3369254 30-Apr-2025 19:14

It doesn't feel like the RRP of fibre has gone up much, but what used to be an industry where deals were common with months half price or free thrown in reducing the overall price seems to have dried up meaning you are actually paying RRP now. Modem rental also seems to now being the standard whereas they used to bundle it in with the package.

mattwnz

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#3369260 30-Apr-2025 19:34

A lack of deals could indicate reducing competition. There does appear to have been quite a bit of consolidation in the market where a lot of the brands are now owned by a handful of companies

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#3369262 30-Apr-2025 19:48

Delorean:

A good example of what can go wrong is what happened with Telecom NZ in the 1990s. When the government sold it off, the new owners focused more on making a profit than keeping the infrastructure up to scratch. As a result, there wasn’t enough investment in broadband and phone networks, and New Zealand started to fall behind.

It took years and a lot of government intervention to turn things around. That’s why it’s so important to have pricing that allows internet providers to keep delivering quality services and invest in the future. We don’t want to end up in the same position again.

The infrastructure is now decoupled from the ISP. Chorus have a regulated profit margin which is based on their costs so have no incentive not to invest.

A race to the bottom is exactly how a functional market should work. "Nice to have" things that consumers don't care about get removed and the minimum viable product is delivered for the lowest possible price.

ISPs have to show consumers why they should be able to charge more for a service. If they can't then consumers can, and should, make the rational choice.

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#3369266 30-Apr-2025 20:28

$77/mo from Orcon after rolling 12 month contract for another year. 300/100, no static IP but it's not CGNAT and seems quite sticky. Quic looks interesting if I ever think I need to move.

loceff13

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#3369364 30-Apr-2025 21:09

$80/mo for 2D 300/100(no landline), also has a $5/mo supergold discount active on my parents plan to get it to $80.

2D was actually pretty good, they proactively called the week before the contract ended and renewed at $80(was $77).

That being said you will be able to get 100/20 for ~$60/mo soon as the 50/10 starter plan gets upgraded from June 2025. Good enough for the vast majority of NZ households.

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Delorean

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#3369366 30-Apr-2025 21:46

Handle9:

The infrastructure is now decoupled from the ISP. Chorus have a regulated profit margin which is based on their costs so have no incentive not to invest.

A race to the bottom is exactly how a functional market should work. "Nice to have" things that consumers don't care about get removed and the minimum viable product is delivered for the lowest possible price.

ISPs have to show consumers why they should be able to charge more for a service. If they can't then consumers can, and should, make the rational choice.

If telecom had invested a fraction of the profits Back into infrastructure. Then the government wouldn’t have had to spend $1.5 billion to build out the fibre network.

One of the reasons that chorus was carved out from telecom is for that exact reason. Telecom had no incentive to invest any more funds as the shareholders we’re not interested.

Just imagine How our fibre network would look if the government had not the invested that money. We probably would’ve had an inferior system like Australia.

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#3369396 1-May-2025 08:12

Delorean:

One of the reasons that chorus was carved out from telecom is for that exact reason. Telecom had no incentive to invest any more funds as the shareholders we’re not interested.

Now we need to do the same with the electricity gentailers. They have no incentive to invest in new generation, when scarcity keeps prices and profits high.

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#3369412 1-May-2025 09:57

For a household that streams all content (3now, neon, apple+ & Prime) plus has 1 other on youtube / gaming, what plan is required?

We have 300/100 with Skinny, but after recently switching my mobile away from them, this will incr $10/mth and I'm questioning whether or not 50/10 will suffice and then what deals there are from there.

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#3369418 1-May-2025 10:32

50/10 might be cutting it fine, but that plan is soon to move to 100/10 which will likely be fine.

RunningMan

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#3369573 1-May-2025 15:43

@sen8or it depends how many simultaneous streams you need, and the resolution.

foden

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#3369647 1-May-2025 23:55

$100/month with Simply Broadband for 950/450 Mbps unlimited, no contract, no bullshit. Actually a bit impressed with their no nonsense approach to just providing UFB with as little friction as possible.

Create an account, provide CC#, address, plan requested, and that's largely it.

Up until the end of last week I was on Spark Wireless broadband/4G at an "advertised" 64/18 Mbps unlimited for $65/month, which it could only deliver in the deep dark hours between 12:00am to 5:00am and was otherwise ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "It is what it is". It is sooo much less than advertised.

I got a bit pissed-off that in order to cancel the Spark Wireless BB, I had to download their android app and "chat" with their customer service. I can subscribe on the Spark website, but to cancel, uhhhh no. Extra steps required.

Spark will be losing my cellphone account too as soon I can move all my 2FA to my work phone. FAFO.

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#3369674 2-May-2025 08:32

foden:

$100/month with Simply Broadband for 950/450 Mbps unlimited, no contract, no bullshit. Actually a bit impressed with their no nonsense approach to just providing UFB with as little friction as possible.

Simply Broadband is simply a 2degrees reseller and run by the Compare group (and is also added, and advertised on Broadband Compare).

Broadband Compare was supposed to provide broadband comparison, not sell its own products while still accepting money from everyone else. It’s a pure advertising site.

Also your post almost seems like an advertisement for simply broadband I’ve been seeing online quite a bit lately. But based on how many posts that appear to be using the same line of “no bullshit broadband” from Facebook, to forums, Reddit etc, simply speaking, simply broadband isn’t a virtual ISP I’m going to recommend

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foden

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#3369683 2-May-2025 09:42

michaelmurfy:

Simply Broadband is simply a 2degrees reseller and run by the Compare group (and is also added, and advertised on Broadband Compare).

Broadband Compare was supposed to provide broadband comparison, not sell its own products while still accepting money from everyone else. It’s a pure advertising site.

That is some food for thought, I honestly had no idea. Indeed it was from Broadband Compare that I became aware of Simply BB. So far so good, but that information will be useful if there are problems down the road.

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