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#2624719 20-Dec-2020 21:42

redhoodie:

Connection might be getting gimped by the included required ONT/home-router.

Nope its more than capable of hyperfiber speeds. any issues will likely be in your netwrok

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#2624752 21-Dec-2020 07:52

vhunt3r:

Are we also going to get a option to change between RGW and bridge mode with new firmware, by end user?

I couldn't imagine most RSP's would be happy with this, so I'd doubt it.

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#2624807 21-Dec-2020 09:31

sbiddle:

vhunt3r:

Are we also going to get a option to change between RGW and bridge mode with new firmware, by end user?

I couldn't imagine most RSP's would be happy with this, so I'd doubt it.

Well then we need RSP's to be better trained on what they can do with Hyper fiber, as currently they dont seem to have much knowledge.
For example Orcon say they will charge me for a static IP but I have tested and it seems I am currently on a static IP as my IP hasnt changed since install day which is now 21 days later with same IP.

I have tried powering off Nokia ONT for over a couple of hours but still doesnt change IP and when I call Orcon support they say I am on dynamic IP and it should randomly change go figure.

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#2624845 21-Dec-2020 10:40

vhunt3r:
Just got my connection up now with Orcon.

Right now ONT is setup as RGW and below are results

Ha! Hot damn. I’ll dig around and see what I’m doing wrong locally.

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#2624846 21-Dec-2020 10:42

redhoodie:

Connection might be getting gimped by the included required ONT/home-router.

@redhoodie - We (and some RSPs) have test the ONT with its built in RGW capability out to maximum XGSPON technology limits.
It can do more than double the 4gbps, in both the up+downstream directions concurrently.

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#2624848 21-Dec-2020 10:44

sbiddle:

vhunt3r:

Are we also going to get a option to change between RGW and bridge mode with new firmware, by end user?

I couldn't imagine most RSP's would be happy with this, so I'd doubt it.

What Steve said.

Bridge/RGW mode is in the RSPs control when provisioning the service. It is an RSPs service offering and operational decision to allow [or not] the flexibility of customers to choose between the 2 modes.

Edit:grammar.

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#2624849 21-Dec-2020 10:46

vhunt3r:

Well then we need RSP's to be better trained on what they can do with Hyper fiber, as currently they dont seem to have much knowledge.
For example Orcon say they will charge me for a static IP but I have tested and it seems I am currently on a static IP as my IP hasnt changed since install day which is now 21 days later with same IP.

I have tried powering off Nokia ONT for over a couple of hours but still doesnt change IP and when I call Orcon support they say I am on dynamic IP and it should randomly change go figure.

Orcon use sticky IP's, I've had the same IP with them for many years now.

So what they have said to you is correct, you are on dynamic however you are re assigned the same IP each time.

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#2624908 21-Dec-2020 11:24

redhoodie:

Ha! Hot damn. I’ll dig around and see what I’m doing wrong locally.

If you're using Windows then boot into Linux and test via that.

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#2625147 22-Dec-2020 00:32

dt:

vhunt3r:

Well then we need RSP's to be better trained on what they can do with Hyper fiber, as currently they dont seem to have much knowledge.
For example Orcon say they will charge me for a static IP but I have tested and it seems I am currently on a static IP as my IP hasnt changed since install day which is now 21 days later with same IP.

I have tried powering off Nokia ONT for over a couple of hours but still doesnt change IP and when I call Orcon support they say I am on dynamic IP and it should randomly change go figure.

Orcon use sticky IP's, I've had the same IP with them for many years now.

So what they have said to you is correct, you are on dynamic however you are re assigned the same IP each time.

Good ISPs do this. The DHCP server assigns you a dynamic IP address, and every time the same device at your end (normally your router) requests a new IP address, it gives you the same one it remembers. This works well as long as there are enough dynamic IP addresses available. When there is a request for a new dynamic IP address from a new device, if there are unassigned dynamic IP addresses, it will be given one of them, but if there are no unassigned addresses, then the IP address that has not been being used for the longest time will be reassigned to the new device. The fly in the ointment here is that every so often the DHCP sever will be upgraded and the new server will not have all the old reserved IP addresses. If it is set up correctly, then it will accept requests from devices that include a requested IP address (the address the device had before it got disconnected), and will assign that address and you will not notice the change. But if your router was off when the new DHCP server started up, neither end will have any idea what the old IP address was and you will then get assigned a new one. This nice behaviour is dependent on the DHCP server settings being set up the right way, and the DHCP server software being able to work like this.

There is also a downside if you are running your own DHCP server and have it set up this way. If you want to assign a manually allocated IP address in the DHCP server (which will normally be outside the range of dynamically assigned addresses), and the device is already connected using a dynamic IP address, the new manual address assignment will not work. What happens is the DHCP server knows that the new manual assignment should be used, but the device keeps on requesting its old dynamic IP address, and the DHCP software honours that request. So you often find that making the new manual assignment work requires resetting the DHCP server (so it forgets the old dynamic IP address) and at the same time resetting the device so it forgets its old dynamic IP address. I consider this behaviour to be a bug in DHCP software, but it is how it works, so as a result of that, some people choose to set up their DHCP servers so that they always assign a new dynamic IP address, no matter what IP address may have previously been used and no matter what IP address the device requested. Then manual address assignments will work the next time the device requests an address.

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#2625422 22-Dec-2020 12:01

Just got connected in Lower Hutt via MyRepublic, Nokia ONT came in Bridged mode by default, which doesn't allow logging in or use of 1G ports. Had to connect to 10G port and set USG to get dynamic IP. Works. Successfully reached speed up to 1G which is the highest line speed with USG. Can't wait for UDM Pro.

Some sort of firewall must be built in to Nokia ONT as all my custom ports are blocked, can still access the security cameras, but no applications. Anyone come across that before?

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#2625426 22-Dec-2020 12:08

ruch33:

Just got connected in Lower Hutt via MyRepublic, Nokia ONT came in Bridged mode by default, which doesn't allow logging in or use of 1G ports. Had to connect to 10G port and set USG to get dynamic IP. Works. Successfully reached speed up to 1G which is the highest line speed with USG. Can't wait for UDM Pro.

Some sort of firewall must be built in to Nokia ONT as all my custom ports are blocked, can still access the security cameras, but no applications. Anyone come across that before?

Not sure the setup when ONT is in bridge mode but my one is in RGW mode and there is option to enable DMZ for my Router box.

Setting is under "Security" and then "DMZ and ALG"

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#2625427 22-Dec-2020 12:10

Also looking at Nokia ONT settings looks like WAN username (credentials) is using a default chorus one and nothing specify for Orcon

Is it similar for anyone else?

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#2625428 22-Dec-2020 12:10

vhunt3r:

ruch33:

Just got connected in Lower Hutt via MyRepublic, Nokia ONT came in Bridged mode by default, which doesn't allow logging in or use of 1G ports. Had to connect to 10G port and set USG to get dynamic IP. Works. Successfully reached speed up to 1G which is the highest line speed with USG. Can't wait for UDM Pro.

Some sort of firewall must be built in to Nokia ONT as all my custom ports are blocked, can still access the security cameras, but no applications. Anyone come across that before?

Not sure the setup when ONT is in bridge mode but my one is in RGW mode and there is option to enable DMZ for my Router box.

Setting is under "Security" and then "DMZ and ALG"

Confirmed with MyRepublic, you can't login to the router in bridged mode, all ports except 10G port are disabled. Might have to raise a ticket with them to check DMZ setting remotely. Would you be able to provide a screenshot of this setting, so I can ask them specific option to pick?

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#2625430 22-Dec-2020 12:12

@ruch33 MyRepublic use CG-NAT by default - the exception to this rule is on their "Gamer" plans which simply include a Static IP. This means that any services you're port-forwarded to won't work.

Also, if you're port forwarding to security cameras or other IoT devices this is a massive security risk and without a doubt these devices will likely be compromised by now.

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#2625440 22-Dec-2020 12:29

michaelmurfy:

@ruch33 MyRepublic use CG-NAT by default - the exception to this rule is on their "Gamer" plans which simply include a Static IP. This means that any services you're port-forwarded to won't work.

Also, if you're port forwarding to security cameras or other IoT devices this is a massive security risk and without a doubt these devices will likely be compromised by now.

LOL, of course not, it's for Plex and remote SSH access on custom ports. So you reckon, need to switch to gamer plan for this to work?

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