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Master Geek

#864946 24-Jul-2013 11:36

Gooseybhai:

nope, the latter as you described.

Cool, assume it is then just connected wires.

Will clip more off and see how it goes. Might just use the silicon on the ends. Don't see why that won't work.

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#864948 24-Jul-2013 11:39

tgzerozone:
Gooseybhai:

nope, the latter as you described.

Cool, assume it is then just connected wires.

Will clip more off and see how it goes. Might just use the silicon on the ends. Don't see why that won't work.

If you are going to just clip wires not really knowing the cause of your issues and before getting a Tech in then you are starting a recipe for disaster. Put away the scissors.

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Master Geek

#864956 24-Jul-2013 11:46

KiwiNZ:

If you are going to just clip wires not really knowing the cause of your issues and before getting a Tech in then you are starting a recipe for disaster. Put away the scissors.

People always say alarms and un-used jacks are some of the biggest culprits of slow internet speed. Why would disconnecting the un-used jacks be a recipe for disaster. The worst that can happen is clipping the wrong wire because you guessed wrong as you don't have any equipment to test which line is which. Hardly a disaster.

At least if I have one line coming in, going to one jack, I can relay this to the ISP when the inevitably tell me that I am at fault.

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#864977 24-Jul-2013 12:03

unused yes - this can cause problems espcially when they are daisy chained like yours
Cut off - no

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#864984 24-Jul-2013 12:13

At the end of your tenancy will you be reconnecting the other jacks that you have disconnected? Just because you don't use them, doesn't mean other people won't. You say you will happily give up bond if required; will you be notifying them that you have done this? If so, all good.

tgzerozone

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Master Geek

#864985 24-Jul-2013 12:14

Gooseybhai: unused yes - this can cause problems espcially when they are daisy chained like yours
Cut off - no

So how else to go about disconnecting them then? Cut off and isolating the loose ends surely should do it.

PS: Just got a txt from orcon saying tech has been assigned in next 24-48 hours and will call if he needs access. Same as last time. They come, they don't conquer, and then they go without calling you.

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#864986 24-Jul-2013 12:17

dolsen: At the end of your tenancy will you be reconnecting the other jacks that you have disconnected? Just because you don't use them, doesn't mean other people won't. You say you will happily give up bond if required; will you be notifying them that you have done this? If so, all good.

Yup, will happily do this, as long as I can use my internet. I had sky turned off recently and am relying alot on my internet for streaming. In essence, I would not mind the speed I'm getting if I was just doing browsing and email, nothing wrong there. But I am streaming television etc and it isn't working for me. It's basically what I use my internet for 80% of the time. For it not to work, is not acceptable to me.

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#865279 24-Jul-2013 18:19

Noticed you started another thread that may potentially be related to this thread.
Have you checked http://www.chorus.co.nz/maps to see what you are connected to?

You might be surprised that you might not even be connected to the green box you showed in the other topic and instead might be ending up at the exchange which may be more than 2km away.

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#865357 24-Jul-2013 20:18

I had the same problem fixed it today i was using a crappy telephone extension 10 meters like yours the highest i got in my room was 2.50 down 0.10 up and it would slow down to 0.60 down and 0.30 up.

I put my router in the kitchen next to my phone jack put filter in connected router to it with the short adsl cable it came with and ran a cat 6 cable back to my computer in my room and now i get 3.60 to 4.0 mbs down and 0.60 to 0.80 up (this on an Adsl1 connection).

Get cat6 cable and you will notice your speed jump really high. using a phone extension lead is killing your broadband.

Please put those scissors away to lol you're looking in the wrong place the phone box is not where the problem is it's your cheap phone extension lead lol

tgzerozone

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Master Geek

#865361 24-Jul-2013 20:28

Gooseybhai: Noticed you started another thread that may potentially be related to this thread.
Have you checked http://www.chorus.co.nz/maps to see what you are connected to?

You might be surprised that you might not even be connected to the green box you showed in the other topic and instead might be ending up at the exchange which may be more than 2km away.

Yup, think I am connected to the exchange at 61 stredwick drive.

tgzerozone

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#865363 24-Jul-2013 20:30

Some stats

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#865364 24-Jul-2013 20:31

AppleJackXD: I had the same problem fixed it today i was using a crappy telephone extension 10 meters like yours the highest i got in my room was 2.50 down 0.10 up and it would slow down to 0.60 down and 0.30 up.

I put my router in the kitchen next to my phone jack put filter in connected router to it with the short adsl cable it came with and ran a cat 6 cable back to my computer in my room and now i get 3.60 to 4.0 mbs down and 0.60 to 0.80 up (this on an Adsl1 connection).

Get cat6 cable and you will notice your speed jump really high. using a phone extension lead is killing your broadband.

Please put those scissors away to lol you're looking in the wrong place the phone box is not where the problem is it's your cheap phone extension lead lol

Yup, understood, but in this case it doesn't matter how long the cable is. I have tested it with long and short cable, difference is minimal and acceptable.

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#865366 24-Jul-2013 20:35

Where is Peter Reader?
The Topic Subject line needs changing to.

To "Tgzeroone", below is what you should have got as an auto reply from the begining and of course most of this you have supplied.

Im also +1 for you to get rid of the 10m phone extentsion cable, move your modem to the jack and then run cat6 from there to your PC.

Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

- you have reset your modem and router
- your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing - you are not being throttled by your ISP due to going over the monthly cap
- your tests are always done on an ethernet connection to the router - do not use wireless for testing
- you read this topic and follow the instructions there http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=27834

Make sure you provide information for other users to help you. If you have not already done it, please EDIT your post and add this now:

- Your ISP and plan
- Type of connection (ADSL, ADSL2, VDSL)
- Your modem DSL stats (do not worry about posting Speedtest, we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin)
- Your general location (or street)
- If you are rural or urban
- If you know your connection is to an exchange, cabinet or conklin
- If your connection is to a ULL or wholesale service
- If you have done an isolation test as per the link above

Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this.http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=96226
Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

I recommend you read these two blog posts:

- Is your premises phone wiring impacting your broadband performance? (very technical) http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/8357
- Are you receiving a substandard ULL ADSL2+ connection from your ISP? http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/7872

I am the Geekzone Robot and I am here to help. I am from the Internet. I do not interact. Do not expect other replies from me.

edits: added the links

mikenzb

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Ultimate Geek

#865368 24-Jul-2013 20:39

tgzerozone:
Gooseybhai: Noticed you started another thread that may potentially be related to this thread.
Have you checked http://www.chorus.co.nz/maps to see what you are connected to?

You might be surprised that you might not even be connected to the green box you showed in the other topic and instead might be ending up at the exchange which may be more than 2km away.

Yup, think I am connected to the exchange at 61 stredwick drive.

Yup looks like it from the old outdated bcc maps.

AppleJackXD

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#865382 24-Jul-2013 21:35

Just give what i did a go i had the same problem as you and it fixed my speed get the cat6 cable from Dick Smith try i am 99% sure it will get you 8 maybe 10 Mbs speed and 1 Mb up

move your modem to the jack and then run cat6 from there to your PC.

If it doesn't work just take the cable back with the receipt (YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE ,ONLY SPEED TO GAIN)

Also everyone else is telling you to do this it fixed my problem which was identical to yours and it will fix yours.

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