Chorus funded study says copper better than fixed wireless

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yitz

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#1740060 15-Mar-2017 21:23

Optus over in Australia also use Huawei's 4G solution for their retail Home Wireless Broadband. It is sold in a similar way, i.e. as DSL/cable replacement. They advertise up to 12 Mbps on 2300 MHz areas up to 5 Mbps on other areas download and 1 Mbps upload.

http://www.optus.com.au/shop/broadband/home-broadband/network/internet-speed

So it seems Spark's offering is relatively "unconstrained" when compared to this. Maybe they have more spectrum available to them than Optus.

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#1740066 15-Mar-2017 21:42

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#1740164 16-Mar-2017 09:58

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And a one off cost for an ethernet run is marginal compared to a wifi extender!!

Seems silly too me that we all pay per month for interwebs, but some wont pay a relatively small one off cost to make every month much better (performance and value)

No its not. An extender goes for about $50 or so. Try to get someone to install anything in your house for less than $200 including the callout etc.

Then there is the time taken off to meet the person to do the installation. Same as the problem holding back fiber installs. Time off=less money earned=a cost.

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#1740181 16-Mar-2017 10:54

richms:

tdgeek:

And a one off cost for an ethernet run is marginal compared to a wifi extender!!

Seems silly too me that we all pay per month for interwebs, but some wont pay a relatively small one off cost to make every month much better (performance and value)

No its not. An extender goes for about $50 or so. Try to get someone to install anything in your house for less than $200 including the callout etc.

Then there is the time taken off to meet the person to do the installation. Same as the problem holding back fiber installs. Time off=less money earned=a cost.

I was being sarcy a little, as the comparsion between extended wifi and ethernet is a gulf, so with that, it is marginal.

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#1742877 17-Mar-2017 18:13

Wonder what they have planned for places that get less than 1Mbit down 250Kbit up on copper and absolutely no 4G/3G/2G signal at all

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#1742881 17-Mar-2017 18:28

^There's still RBI2 later this year so probably will help.

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#1742887 17-Mar-2017 18:45

yitz: Optus over in Australia also use Huawei's 4G solution for their retail Home Wireless Broadband. It is sold in a similar way, i.e. as DSL/cable replacement. They advertise up to 12 Mbps on 2300 MHz areas up to 5 Mbps on other areas download and 1 Mbps upload. http://www.optus.com.au/shop/broadband/home-broadband/network/internet-speed So it seems Spark's offering is relatively "unconstrained" when compared to this. Maybe they have more spectrum available to them than Optus.

You have to remember 12Mbps is a base speed for NBN plans in Australia - it's also 2 - 3x faster than many xDSL users will get in Australia. Most NZers just don't realise how superior our broadband is.

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#1762322 12-Apr-2017 17:03

richms:

Wonder how they selected the locations of places to put these 4g test connections, Perhaps ask staff who knows of places with crap service on their mobiles etc?

Suprised they dont make a deal out of the IP address problem, since that is an area where the fixed cellular products actually do suck for some people and dsl wins out over.

Firstly, we are a very stubbornly independent bunch at Truenet

Our selection basis was completely hidden from Chorus, Spark or Skinny, we approached existing panelists that were longstanding and reliable, with the only criteria being:

Urban only

50% Auckland and 50% other cities

50% Spark and Skinny (Vodafone was not offering FW when we started)

We did have to allocate Skinny lines to Spark panelists to avoid confusion by Spark over a second line.

NO OTHER CRITERIA and NO Chorus involvement, we would not have agreed to the contract on that basis.

BTW 25% of Fixed Wireless lines are in LFC areas that are not Chorus

We are asking those same panelists to consider monitoring Vodafone FW - AS WELL AS Spark or Skinny FW.

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#1762328 12-Apr-2017 17:15

chevrolux:

Is anyone else having an issue with the 'fixed wireless' term? I don't see the Spark/Vodafone 3G/4G as fixed wireless at all.

Fixed wireless to me is an external antenna/radio mounted and aligned to give the best possible connection and stability, not just chuck a cheap box in the corner next to the telly and hope the lights come on.

The WISP networks out there can out perform a hell of a lot of ADSL connections (and even maybe VDSL these days) and I feel like these operators shouldn't have their product tarnished by being thrown in to the same boat as 3G/4G solutions.

We had a great problem with terms, deciding in the end to match the market. I agree, this is not Fixed Wireless, it is a Cellular connection using a fixed modem (actually portable) However public understanding would be at the low end to call it anything else, Unfortunately the Spark, Skinny & vodafone naming convention puts the real Fixed Wireless WISPs in the position of have to change their name.

BTW we are looking for more Rural panelists to volunteer at truenet.nz - and that includes PtP Fixed Wireless

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