What kinds of speeds are you getting to the USA?

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#2634017 12-Jan-2021 08:09

Looks to me like speedtest cli isn't preforming as well.

Are you running it on wsl or something?
My odriod tests with speedtest cli very often and doesn't see any degeration compared to speedtest app on Windows - generally it preforms far better.

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#2634021 12-Jan-2021 08:23

Run from within windows 10 via some batch files i made, one per server i test to

The thing is it reports max speed to local servers so its not as though its a limitation of the CLI interface

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#2634097 12-Jan-2021 10:08

Jase2985:

Run from within windows 10 via some batch files i made, one per server i test to

The thing is it reports max speed to local servers so its not as though its a limitation of the CLI interface

No, but depending on how it's handing the tcp scheduling there may be something funky.

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#2634103 12-Jan-2021 10:20

hio77:

No, but depending on how it's handing the tcp scheduling there may be something funky.

Like I've said multiple times - Windows just isn't good at this and going via WSL is no better.

This really needs to be run on a capable Linux host. I highly doubt there is actually an issue with this connection.

Regarding iCloud I've noticed that Apple prefer IPv6 connections. @Jase2985 perhaps get Voyager to enable IPv6 and configure this on your network.

I'm darn serious about the Windows problem. Especially in the upload department Windows just isn't good with TCP Scheduling and Killer Ethernet cards are much, much worse here. I remember a number of years ago I had an Alienware laptop with Killer Ethernet. I uninstalled all the Killer related stuff and only used the vanilla driver as this netted far better performance.

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#2634313 12-Jan-2021 14:19

@michaelmurfy This is posting from with Ubuntu 20.10. Next to no difference to LA.

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I will try on a laptop thats running an Intel Ethernet adapter and see if there is any difference, but the results above clearly show its not a windows issue.

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#2634321 12-Jan-2021 14:37

@Jase2985 This is what I mean when I say I think the issue is on your end - I seriously can't replicate it on a Voyager Gigabit connection:

This was done on a Synology NAS so a pretty poor example as the NAS is in use and its network connection is somewhat saturated but there you go. On the upload I could get over 300Mbit each time.

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#2634337 12-Jan-2021 15:10

@michaelmurfy and thats find but im trying to understand where there issues lies on my end if in fact it is my end.

You said use Linux i have with no change, the only common factor is the hardware, but thats been proven to do gigabit speeds. so what else could it be? i get TCP has its limitations but it seems as though im up against a hard wall with about 200-250mbps to the US, it ramps up really fast to those speeds then just flat stops and goes backwards. Downloads are what i would call fine, 850mbps to New York.

I have tried a different computer with a different network adapter under Linux and have the same thing going on. is it my hardware or something in voyager on my profile?

Australia is fine, local is fine, the US is not.

I would like to try and understand.

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#2634340 12-Jan-2021 15:14

Who's your LFC?

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#2634347 12-Jan-2021 15:23

Jase2985:

@michaelmurfy and thats find but im trying to understand where there issues lies on my end if in fact it is my end.

You said use Linux i have with no change, the only common factor is the hardware, but thats been proven to do gigabit speeds. so what else could it be? i get TCP has its limitations but it seems as though im up against a hard wall with about 200-250mbps to the US, it ramps up really fast to those speeds then just flat stops and goes backwards. Downloads are what i would call fine, 850mbps to New York.

I have tried a different computer with a different network adapter under Linux and have the same thing going on. is it my hardware or something in voyager on my profile?

Australia is fine, local is fine, the US is not.

I would like to try and understand.

@Jase2985 do you have access to a VPN? Can you VPN to another location in NZ and then try. I don't think it sounds like you have a hardware issue. Sounds like a routing issue to me.

@michaelmurfy I used wget on MacOS, on a wired network and my router is capable of gigabit speeds.

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#2634348 12-Jan-2021 15:25

@nzpaul What router are you using? Like I said, even if a router is "capable" of Gigabit speed it doesn't mean it can route it correctly.

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#2634356 12-Jan-2021 15:40

@michaelmurfy custom dedicated x86 router. It should be vastly more powerful than what is needed for gigabit.

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#2634371 12-Jan-2021 16:52

@Talkiet:

Who's your LFC?

N.

Chorus, with voyager as the RSP

@nzpaul

cant specify where the VPN end point is in NZ.

The VPN exits onto the same route that my voyager connection takes so it makes next to no difference in speed.

VPN off

C:\Users\Home>tracert speed5.snap.net.nz

Tracing route to speed5.snap.net.nz [111.69.43.13]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 10.5.0.1
2 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 180.149.231.201
3 2 ms 2 ms 3 ms as23655.akl.ix.nz [43.243.21.30]
4 126 ms 126 ms 126 ms 14.43.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.43.14]
5 126 ms 126 ms 126 ms waldorf.snap.net.nz [111.69.43.13]

Trace complete.

VPN on

C:\Users\Home>tracert speed5.snap.net.nz

Tracing route to speed5.snap.net.nz [111.69.43.13]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms lo-vprn-100.br1.mdr.vygr.net [114.23.3.255]
3 4 ms 2 ms 3 ms ae-0-621.cr1.mdr.vygr.net [114.23.3.230]
4 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms as23655.akl.ix.nz [43.243.21.30]
5 127 ms 128 ms 128 ms 14.43.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.43.14]
6 128 ms 128 ms 128 ms waldorf.snap.net.nz [111.69.43.13]

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#2634545 12-Jan-2021 21:11

@Jase2985 I meant try doing a speedtest via a VPN that is terminated at another ISP/datacenter. See if you can get better speeds. The traceroute will usually terminate at the same place unless the target domain DNS server is doing geolocation.

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#2634562 12-Jan-2021 21:58

Jase2985:

@Talkiet:

Who's your LFC?

N.

Chorus, with voyager as the RSP

@nzpaul

cant specify where the VPN end point is in NZ.

The VPN exits onto the same route that my voyager connection takes so it makes next to no difference in speed.

VPN off

C:\Users\Home>tracert speed5.snap.net.nz

Tracing route to speed5.snap.net.nz [111.69.43.13]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 10.5.0.1
2 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 180.149.231.201
3 2 ms 2 ms 3 ms as23655.akl.ix.nz [43.243.21.30]
4 126 ms 126 ms 126 ms 14.43.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.43.14]
5 126 ms 126 ms 126 ms waldorf.snap.net.nz [111.69.43.13]

Trace complete.

VPN on

C:\Users\Home>tracert speed5.snap.net.nz

Tracing route to speed5.snap.net.nz [111.69.43.13]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms lo-vprn-100.br1.mdr.vygr.net [114.23.3.255]
3 4 ms 2 ms 3 ms ae-0-621.cr1.mdr.vygr.net [114.23.3.230]
4 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms as23655.akl.ix.nz [43.243.21.30]
5 127 ms 128 ms 128 ms 14.43.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.43.14]
6 128 ms 128 ms 128 ms waldorf.snap.net.nz [111.69.43.13]

and i point back to my comment before... not that i'm saying any one entity is or is not at fault to be clear.

That or @Talkiet has some sort of internet gods fault on a certain LFC 🤔🤔

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