To all those who complain about poor Go Large and Torrent speeds

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bradstewart

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#10927 20-Dec-2006 00:27

Many have been complaining about poor speeds on Go Large.

My advice is to stop complaining. You are getting unlimited data. Even with the slow speeds you download a huge volume of data in a month.

I recently switched from my Xtra Adventure plan (FS/128Kbps 10GB/Month) to Orcon (FS/FS 15GB/Month) and have seen a huge increase in download speeds and improvement in ping times. For the average download I get in excess of 650KB/sec and torrents average 250+ KB/sec.

Check these BT speeds out (click to enlarge):

My suggestion is if you want decent speeds to switch to a Pro plan and pay for what you use. Switching ISP can do wonders. With Xtra I was lucky if I went over 4Mbps. With Orcon I mostly hit my lines maximum speed.

I should add that I'm quite a distance from the exchange: >2Km

Thought I would share my experience, just to show it's not all bad out there.

[Self edit: spelling]

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#55914 20-Dec-2006 08:55

OT for a sec

Brad what Torrent site are you using there??

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#55923 20-Dec-2006 10:36

http://www.eztvefnet.org/

Ironically I was downloading that second torrent so fast that my share ratio dropped to 0.005 and now it wont download any more.

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#56395 27-Dec-2006 00:08

Apparently they are throttling ports 5000 and below...i am told that if you want faster speeds tell your torrent client to use a port higher than 5000.

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#56397 27-Dec-2006 01:50

Logically download speed should be same regardless of the ISP, since all ISPs use Telecom's network. Anyone know why download speed is ISP dependent?

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#56402 27-Dec-2006 08:34

Well, to answer your question - customers on go large or go large type plans with other providers will generally experience slower connectivity than other plans.

This is probably due to the 'traffic management policy' (layer 7 filtering) shaping everything.

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#56407 27-Dec-2006 10:44

STI: Maybe this will shed some light. I'll use Orcon as the UBS ISP for this example:

Xtra customers get to the DSLAM, are authenticated there, and then use the full NZIP network to get around. Most of the internet traffic leaves through the Southern Cross, but there are backups.

UBS customers get to the DSLAM, and then a tunnel is opened to their ISP's regional routers, i.e., if you live in Christchurch you'd connect to Orcon South Island. This is routed through Telecom's network, however through a virtual tunnel so that you never actually use Telecom's network directly. Once it hits Orcon, they route it through to the internet as they see fit. This is also why pings are higher than an Xtra customer, as there is more overhead to go through.

I'm using Orcon as an example because they are an exemplary example. They have their own core network, and don't rely on Telecom to get bandwidth. Orcon can practically guarantee their customers bandwidth, because they estimate how much bandwidth they will need. Once they know, they hit up Telecom, Telstra Clear, GGI, (and that other on which I've forgotten) until they have enough.

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#56427 27-Dec-2006 17:59

just downloading some torrents and my download speeds are really fast!!! im geting over 400KBps. Im on xtras fs/fs pro plan with 15gb.I found a new torrent search site some of you probably know it http://btjunkie.org. The search tool for searching private trackers is really useful you get great speeds on some of the trackers check it out.

Click to view larger image:

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#56428 27-Dec-2006 19:04

i am with ihug's old 3.5/128k plan with 30gb bandwith limit for $59.95.
(though i end up using 60gb every month because ihug's servers throttles everyone very late)

they upgraded me to FS/128k for free and i normally get around about 400kbps downloads on torrents during peak time and 640kbps during their off peak times.

pings are very good now as well. 39ms-42ms on NZ servers playing either BF2 or CSS and 85ms on Australian servers.

Wouldnt recommend any one to go sign up with ihug for their new plans as they are not that great. XNET (prob. best ISP atm to sign up with) and ORCON are the best one out their. Good value for money plans from both ISPS with an option to turn off interleaving from both of them.

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#56432 27-Dec-2006 20:11

rojkind: just downloading some torrents and my download speeds are really fast!!! im geting over 400kbps.

Your download speed according to the Screen Capture is actually 451.4kBytes per second = 3611.2Mbps.

That is a pretty impressive speed for a Bit Torrent download on ADSL.

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#56434 27-Dec-2006 20:16

This comment is not directed at anyone specifically...

People should get around to know the difference between kilobits (Kb) and kilobytes (KB). This is very important when talking about speeds, because kilobytes per second is eight times more than kilobits per second.

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#56502 28-Dec-2006 22:28

freitasm: This comment is not directed at anyone specifically...

People should get around to know the difference between kilobits (Kb) and kilobytes (KB). This is very important when talking about speeds, because kilobytes per second is eight times more than kilobits per second.

That's an excellent link. I'd been there recently and the whole mess with kibibytes and mebibytes Vs megabytes and kilobytes really is a brainscrew. That link really goes a good way towards explaining the reasons behind when someone buys e.g. a 80GB hard drive and only mounts a 75GB windows filesystem; and why it's not just overhead.

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#56508 29-Dec-2006 00:08

wow im so impressed my torrent speeds just keep on getting faster they have never been this fast im used to getting max speeds of 100KBps. I guess you know your a geek when you get excited about your torrent speeds...

Another azureus screenshot (this time on osx)

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