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Topic # 11864 15-Feb-2007 14:22
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Hi all,

I've had a play with Joost (on my Mac using BootCamp, Mac beta version expected v soon) and it works very well on my current Pro plan, 15GB.
Has anyone used it on GoLarge with any success?

Anyone not familiar with Joost it's free broadcast quality TV for your computer working with a similar technology to Skype.

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  Reply # 60958 16-Feb-2007 00:18
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I was wondering just such a thing. I've long questioned the logic behind packet filtering, and ISPs taking an interest in what their customers do online in the first place.

I would be very interested in seeing the performance of Joost on traffic-managed plans such as that. Because to the best of my knowledge peer to peer protocols are essentially labelled 'naughty'.

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Reply # 60961 16-Feb-2007 00:22
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weblordpepe: Because to the best of my knowledge peer to peer protocols are essentially labelled 'naughty'.


Stupidly. ISPs shouldn't worry about what or how people are using. They are "Internet Service Providers", not "Internet Services Hinderers".

I am using Joost on TelstraClear 10Mbps/2Mbps. It's like a broadcast TV. Really good stuff. But read the fineprint about how much traffic it generates. Not for the low allowance user...







 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 60963 16-Feb-2007 00:33
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Yeah you're dead right.

ISP's should be totaly neutral and not stick their nose into what customers do. Then they avoid a whole lot of legal bollocks. Because if they monitor one particular thing - then why dont they monitor this, and that, and this. Sooner or later you end up with a net-nanny situation, or exadurating even further - a great wall of china situation.

I'm quite a poster-boy for keeping ISPs on the other side of the phone line.

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  Reply # 61182 19-Feb-2007 09:25
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freitasm:


Stupidly. ISPs shouldn't worry about what or how people are using. They are "Internet Service Providers", not "Internet Services Hinderers".

I am using Joost on TelstraClear 10Mbps/2Mbps. It's like a broadcast TV. Really good stuff. But read the fineprint about how much traffic it generates. Not for the low allowance user...




Hi, off topic but I registered as a Joost beta user many weeks ago and last week one of my workmates won a beta invite. Now I am getting more and more frustrated at the lack of invites. Lucky you! Do you have any tokens?Wink

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Reply # 61184 19-Feb-2007 09:31
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I don't have any yet, but when I do I will post in the forum for people to ask for.


Remember Joost works pretty much like Skype, so if you have problems with Skype on GoLarge, it's likely it will affect Joost as well.








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  Reply # 61201 19-Feb-2007 12:02
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I've switched back to Go Large (arghhh!) so I can answer my own question.
Joost works well on the Pro plans, but it stalls all the time on Go Large, it's not usable at all.  However Skype does work well as I think I've read the Skype traffic isn't subject to the traffic management?  Maybe Joost is but Skype isn't.

I do have some invites if anyone wants one.

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  Reply # 61202 19-Feb-2007 12:04
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Isn't Joost dependent on a decent upstream speed? Go Large is limited to 128kbit/s max.

Don't have a Joost invitation so can't try it out :\




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Reply # 61225 19-Feb-2007 14:46
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neilinnz: I've switched back to Go Large (arghhh!) so I can answer my own question.
Joost works well on the Pro plans, but it stalls all the time on Go Large, it's not usable at all.  However Skype does work well as I think I've read the Skype traffic isn't subject to the traffic management?  Maybe Joost is but Skype isn't.

I do have some invites if anyone wants one.


Please, please, please can I have an invite? I'll be eternally greatful and never post anything to contradict you on these forumsSealed.
Seriously, what do you need to know from me to get an invite?



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  Reply # 61228 19-Feb-2007 14:58
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No Joost tokens left.  Those who've asked already I will try and get one to you as soon as possible.

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  Reply # 61283 19-Feb-2007 22:42
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Before this turns into another invite thread, anyone seeking invites should post here --> Invite Thread
But if anyone happens to have a spare invite...

What amount of usage does it use? as in kb/s wise..?

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Reply # 61295 20-Feb-2007 07:32
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http://joost.com/blog/2007/01/venice-s-bandwidth-usage.html

Not in terms of speed, but quantity, prepare your pockets if you are on a metered plan: about 320MB download and 105MB upload per hour. This is megabytes not megabits seeing that so many people here on Geekzone seem to mix MB and Mb).





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  Reply # 61297 20-Feb-2007 08:40
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Download bandwidth used, using 8 bits to the byte:
320MB/hour = 750kbit/s; upload bandwidth, around a third of it... say 768/256k. Should work on most NZ DSL then, apart from Go Large and RUBS, unless I've got my maths in a twist.






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  Reply # 61315 20-Feb-2007 12:03

speaking of Joost, whatever happened to Orcon TV? does anyone know? I really enjoyed watching Alt-TV in Ubuntu




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